# AMD CPUs please
**URL:** https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316
**Category:** Framework Laptop 13
**Created:** [April 2, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316 "2021-04-02T16:37:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 12
### Author:  [@NM64](https://community.frame.work/u/NM64)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2022, 3:03am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/228 "2022-03-04T03:03:08Z")
> [@agentcrm](#):
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> Intel 12th gen
Alder Lake (Intel 12th gen) supports DDR4 as well as seen with DDR4-equipped LGA1700 motherboards.
But yes, Zen3+ (Ryzen 6000) seems to not support DDR4 at all.
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### Author:  [@agentcrm](https://community.frame.work/u/agentcrm)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2022, 5:20am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/229 "2022-03-04T05:20:09Z")
> [@NM64](#):
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> Alder Lake (Intel 12th gen) supports DDR4 as well as seen with DDR4-equipped LGA1700 motherboards.
Yes I know it does support DDR4.
ASUS even make adapters to use DDR4 on their DDR5 motherboards.
The point being, that it was designed around DDR5 and the is a performance increase over DDR4 SODIMM’s.
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### Author:  [@GhostLegion](https://community.frame.work/u/GhostLegion)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2022, 5:21am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/230 "2022-03-05T05:21:06Z")
> [@agentcrm](#):
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> The point being, that it was designed around DDR5 and the is a performance increase over DDR4 SODIMM’s.
Marginal for CPU performance, much greater most likely for iGPU
I expect with AMD requiring DDR5, 12th gen upgrades will also be DDR5 so as to retain economies of scale in part costs
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### Author:  [@Jake\_Wynn](https://community.frame.work/u/Jake_Wynn)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/231 "2022-03-07T17:14:06Z")
> [@NM64](#):
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> Intel’s Linux drivers are also just as open source - it’s Nvidia that you _really_ want to be pointing any fingers at in terms of not “playing ball” with open source software.
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> In fact both Intel and AMD use mesa for their open-source graphics (which is why I was kind of flabbergasted over on the [Linux Mint forums that a driver issue can still exist with mesa on Intel hardware despite not existing with the very same installed copy of mesa on AMD hardware](https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=366662))
Fair enough then. I stand corrected
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### Author:  [@fabrice\_dhenry](https://community.frame.work/u/fabrice_dhenry)
#### Post date: [May 4, 2022, 11:24am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/232 "2022-05-04T11:24:58Z")
Another vote for AMD.
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### Author:  [@NM64](https://community.frame.work/u/NM64)
#### Post date: [May 5, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/233 "2022-05-05T19:35:33Z")
It may or may not be relevant than the Ryzen 5000C series has been announced for Chromebooks, notable in that Chomebooks use CoreBoot.:
> **[AMD Announces Ryzen 5000C "Zen 3" Processors for Chromebooks](https://www.techpowerup.com/294535/amd-announces-ryzen-5000c-zen-3-processors-for-chromebooks)**
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> AMD today announced the Ryzen 5000C line of mobile processors for Chromebooks. This is the company's second generation of Chromebook-specific processors after the Ryzen 3000C series based on the original "Zen" microarchitecture. The 5000C series...
Basically they seem to be rebrands of the existing 5000U series processors (albeit with a few clockspeed tweaks) with the exception of the 5125C which looks to be what the Zen-based Athlons used to be (2core/4thread with no turbo and only 3 iGPU compute units).
That being said, the lack of USB4/Thunderbolt is probably still the elephant in the room and, as I previously stated, we may have to wait for Ryzen 7000 mobile chips which is already known to be undergoing CoreBoot development (Ryzen 6000 seems to have been skipped; I can’t help but wonder if Google also doesn’t want to touch Microsoft Pluton for basically being a competing solution - “Google TPM” is even mentioned in the slidedeck which obviously just utilizes the processor’s TPM functionality. It’ll be _very_ interesting to see if mobile Ryzen 7000 has Pluton or not and if the 7000C variants differ in that regard).
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### Author:  [@Goofy](https://community.frame.work/u/Goofy)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2022, 1:51pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/234 "2022-05-19T13:51:30Z")
To be honest, Intel CPU is the only thing holding me back from purchasing this wonderful laptop.
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### Author:  [@Crystalyne](https://community.frame.work/u/Crystalyne)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/235 "2022-05-19T20:31:23Z")
I know the 12th gen parts have just came out, but I’m putting a bump on this as 12th gen has the same (bad) iGPU which I have found does slow me down a lot when using my FW. AMD’s iGPUs are considerably better, so would be an instant buy from me.
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### Author:  [@NM64](https://community.frame.work/u/NM64)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/236 "2022-05-19T21:29:13Z")
> [@Crystalyne](#):
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> 12th gen has the same (bad) iGPU which I have found does slow me down a lot when using my FW
Now I have no idea what your software configuration is but I do want to at least mention that Linux is basically a requirement in order to get anywhere near the full potential out of Intel’s graphics hardware due to extremely sub-par Windows graphics drivers vs their extremely well-regarded Linux graphics drivers.
…and I say this as someone typing from a Ryzen 4800U!
(fun fact, Intel’s Windows drivers have consistently been heavily rumored to be the reason why Intel’s discrete GPUs keep being delayed and that the hardware has actually been ready for months now)
Also it goes without saying that dual-channel RAM of not-slow speeds is always going to be needed to get the most out of any integrated graphics, AMD or Intel (though, if the iGPU is _really_ weak then, theoretically, you’ll hit bottlenecks in the GPU cores before the memory bandwidth becomes an issue - I’m thinking more like Intel 945GMA-class stuff from the mid 2000s)
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### Author:  [@Wes\_C](https://community.frame.work/u/Wes_C)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2022, 10:00am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/237 "2022-05-30T10:00:08Z")
I’ve got a fistful of dollars here just waiting for the ryzen options.
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### Author:  [@Indy](https://community.frame.work/u/Indy)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2022, 7:23am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/238 "2022-06-01T07:23:34Z")
I will instantly buy, when an AMD option gets released. I need the better iGPU performance.
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### Author:  [@Alex\_S](https://community.frame.work/u/Alex_S)
#### Post date: [June 2, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/239 "2022-06-02T21:30:36Z")
Posting here again. Happy user of a 4700U and 4900H, as well as a 5900HX that I’ve tested at work. Would love to see a 6800U board or newer become available, but I guess we will have to wait and see after the shortages.
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### Author:  [@Asad1](https://community.frame.work/u/Asad1)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2022, 10:01am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/240 "2022-06-12T10:01:22Z")
I am also waiting for AMD models. While I understand the supply constraints make it difficult for Framework to have a clear road map, it would be appreciable if they were at least forthcoming and transparent about their plans and rough timeline about it.
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### Author:  [@Hugo\_Gonzalez](https://community.frame.work/u/Hugo_Gonzalez)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2022, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/241 "2022-06-12T13:11:38Z")
I would love AMD as well. Next generation mobile ryzen really needs thunderbolt. That would make my setup complete.
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### Author:  [@IndependentGeorge](https://community.frame.work/u/IndependentGeorge)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2022, 2:46am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/242 "2022-06-14T02:46:36Z")
The 6800U [graphics performance](https://youtu.be/UK5T4SvTgeQ?t=498) is genuinely impressive for integrated graphics. I’m eagerly awaiting the Zen4/RDNA3 APUs - I would definitely upgrade for that.
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### Author:  [@Matt\_Adams](https://community.frame.work/u/Matt_Adams)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/243 "2022-06-17T00:41:53Z")
YES! This 🙂 I want to vote with my wallet on a few topics. I’m super pumped about Frame.Work and right to repair.
Lately, I’ve not been too jazzed with Intel’s adding code for Software-Defined Silicon to the Linux kernel (and probably Windows too). It feels like rent seeking behavior from a company who really doesn’t need to get into subscriptions or other tiering like that. Having the opportunity to buy a right-to-repair-focused AMD-based laptop would be a great alternative!
(yes, I know that SDS is probably going to be aimed at enterprise markets at the start, but it feels like BMW building cars with seat heaters but making users pay a monthly subscription to use them, ya know?)
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### Author:  [@Sammy\_Grigo](https://community.frame.work/u/Sammy_Grigo)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/244 "2022-06-23T14:18:50Z")
A 6800U Framework is an instant buy for me
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### Author:  [@nitrousgranola](https://community.frame.work/u/nitrousgranola)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2022, 3:21am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/245 "2022-06-24T03:21:02Z")
> [@Francesco\_Basile](#):
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> afaik you don’t need an intel cpu for thunderbolt
Fair enough considering the ARM Macs have Thunderbolt. I’m excited to see how and where Framework heads in the future!
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### Author:  [@agentcrm](https://community.frame.work/u/agentcrm)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2022, 6:21am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/246 "2022-06-24T06:21:29Z")
> [@nitrousgranola](#):
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> Fair enough considering the ARM Macs have Thunderbolt. I’m excited to see how and where Framework heads in the future!
They have said before that it’s cost, they haven’t gone through the certification process.
IMO that makes sense, better off spending that money shipping more products.
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### Author:  [@John](https://community.frame.work/u/John)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2022, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/amd-cpus-please/316/247 "2022-07-06T21:03:46Z")
If they release and AMD mainboard, then it would be absolutely stupid to not support ECC! The AMD mobile CPUs support it defaultly and they’d get free promoted from Linus Torvalds! He would 100% shout out frame.work because he’s been vocal about missing ECC, especially in laptops. It wouldn’t have to come with the laptop, but it would still be relatively tribal for the motherboard to support it.
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