AMD Gang, any of you are planning to swap out the Mediatek WiFi?

They use the same linux driver so it’s pretty much tomato/tomato here XD, if the killer wifi 7 ones are rebadged be200s you are gonna have a bad time on the amd framework for now though.

My own plan is to try and get my hands on the Qualcomm WiFi 7 chip (as mentioned in this guide) and swap it out. Maybe an idea for FW to stock it on the marketplace?

It’s supposed to be an upgrade for the 210, as far as I understand

The only issue with that is I’m running windows 11. I assume there are win 11 drivers though?

The link given in the guide I mentioned goes to this page, where Windows 11 support is advertised - Qualcomm QCNCM865 - WikiDevi.Wi-Cat.RU

It also makes the amd framework not post, don’t ask me how I know XD

Don’t suppose there’s a convenient list of compatible cards :joy:

Also, what about Realtek cards?

Please AMA about the QCNCM865 and Linux :slight_smile:

I have installed Intels AX210 today and it is much better in my point of view than the Mediatek. I had cracking noise with Bluetooth, this is gone, also the range increased a lot. I am using Windows 11.

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I still have my old AX210 saved in my cabinet and I think when I get the time this weekend, I will also do the same and replace the Mediatek card, I don’t have as much of an issue with it as other people but it’s just slower than my other devices for no reason, and takes up to 30 seconds to turn back on from hibernate mode.

I’ve been running a RTL8852BE I took out of my desktop in mine, and it seems to work much better than the MediaTek one (in Linux).

Okay, cool. That’s the one I was looking at possibly ordering

Linux here.

The thought crossed my mind, I had even ordered an AX210 but ended up returning it in its original packaging.

Reason being, the reason I was looking for replacing the Mediatek card was failure to connect on some boots/resumes from suspend. An issue that was later solved via a (Linux) firmware update.

So once I was happy with the Mediatek card, no reason to risk the linux-support lottery with the Intel card.

Make no mistake, Intel cards can also be crappy on Linux.

My previous 11th gen Intel Dell XPS had an AX201, and with the latest iwlwifi firmware they introduced a regression that totally killed bandwidth if bluetooth earbuds were connected. It was impossible for me to have Teams calls with my earbuds, or watch a YT video because it would start buffering like crazy. I had to manually revert to a previous firmware version and had to pin that version to avoid receiving any further updates, since the bug report I opened went unnoticed.

So yeah, keep that in mind. Grass ain’t necessarily always greener on the other side.

EDIT: sharing link for those who are interested:

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217708

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The biggest issue I have is there seems to be issues with the bluetooth on windows

So, I decided to give the Mediatek a chance. What I found (on Fedora 39):

  1. It’s 5Ghz performance is within margin of error of an AX210
  2. It’s 6Ghz is definitely worse than an AX210 for weaker signals, but gets better throughput with stronger signals.
  3. According to my router, the Mediatek keeps on “re-connecting”, but that doesn’t seem to affect long running connections.
  4. It’s Bluetooth signal is significantly stronger than an AX210

So, for now I’m keeping it.

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Got a few weeks of usage here – works well. More stable connections and faster (re)connects.

I bought an AX210 and tested it against the MediaTek that came with my machine under identical conditions. Even swapped them a couple times to prove that it wasn’t a dodgy antenna connection or anything like that. The AX210 was very significantly faster.

On 5GHz, while sitting within line-of-sight on an AP, the Intel would clock 500 Mbit/s speedtest throughput while the Mediatek would do 200-250. In another part of the house with moderate (but still not bad) signal strength the Intel came in at 200-225 Mbit/s, while the MediaTek wandered around between 25 and 50. That’s not “within margin of error” for me. Might as well “upgrade” to a 15-year-old 11n card.

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I wonder why there’s so much reported variance.

The AP’s in use and enviromnent seems to affect the Mediatek Wifi cards more than the Intel ones.
I moved, use the same AP, but am now closer, and speed is slightly down.

Likely because of interference from neighbourhood.

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To add one more anecdotal experience which support the Mediatek being fine if the networks is good, but more prone to issues if its not (at least under Linux):

In my home network the Mediatek was fine and I noticed no issues.
However at work I connect to a very large Eduroam network and would often get disconnects for several seconds, sometimes it would fail to reconnect on its own at all until I disabled and re-enabled wifi
There are definitely some issues with the eduroam Network here, people with other laptops and windows users are affected too, though often to a lesser degree.

After switching the card out to an Intel AX210 there are no noticeable disconnects anymore.

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