# Are you keeping your Framework laptop? **URL:** \ **Category:** Framework Laptop 13\ **Created:** [May 5, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264 "2022-05-05T22:39:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Second\_Coming](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/second_coming/32/29330_2.png) [@Second\_Coming](https://community.frame.work/u/Second_Coming)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 7:51am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264/120 "2022-07-01T07:51:18Z")
> [@anon81945988](#): > > The site is in English The sound test video hurts my eyes… #NotTypingRightAndSlow. If you’re not typing right, but can type fast, that’s cool. p.s. I’m not trying to demand anything here…just a wish list should Framework ever decide to have a 15/16 inch model. ---
**Author:** ![Usernames](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/usernames/32/40546_2.png) [@Usernames](https://community.frame.work/u/Usernames)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 8:13am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264/121 "2022-07-01T08:13:21Z")
> [@Second\_Coming](#): > > The other thing that seems to be missing on the current Framework laptop is the slanted numpad with numlock. Noted this as well. > [@Second\_Coming](#): > > Currently, the 14 inch Framework laptop’s input cover is machined in such a way that the keyboard layout is part of the input cover. Apple shifted away from this style to that black plastic rectangle so the industry will be sure to follow suit 😛 I agree it would be better if it was not part of the housing but a module. > [@anon81945988](#): > > Just to jump on the keyboard raft, designed to be part of a 14" laptop Coolest thing I noticed was the laptops KB can be removed and used with any computer using the USB interface, awesome! ---
**Author:** ![nez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cdc98d/32.png) [@nez](https://community.frame.work/u/nez)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264/122 "2022-07-01T20:59:11Z")
I’m planning to keep this one for about ten years. If Framework makes it possible to use it longer, I’ll be ecstatic. I have a college student this year and I am NOT planning on buying her one, just because this is still a ‘first adopter’ device, and I don’t think it quite is realizing all the benefits we’ll see in a few years. There are a few design aspects I’m still waiting on updates for (keyboard!!) and a few I wasn’t sure about but now really like (screen ratio). ---
**Author:** ![Jason\_Dagless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@Jason\_Dagless](https://community.frame.work/u/Jason_Dagless)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264/123 "2022-07-02T13:01:11Z")
I think the long term issue for me will be durability. The Framework does not feel ‘chuckable’ like a serious Dell/Lenovo work laptop would. The screen just feels so fragile and the metals so thin. I feel if I look at the screen the wrong way it will crack. Its the only laptop I’ve take the trouble to buy a hardshell case to put it in my laptop bag with. ---
**Author:** ![Second\_Coming](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/second_coming/32/29330_2.png) [@Second\_Coming](https://community.frame.work/u/Second_Coming)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264/124 "2022-07-02T13:31:10Z")
> [@Jason\_Dagless](#): > > The Framework does not feel ‘chuckable’ like a serious Dell/Lenovo work laptop would. The screen just feels so fragile and the metals so thin. I feel the same way as well. Hope the v2 lid will feel better. Waiting for reviews. ---
**Author:** ![Second\_Coming](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/second_coming/32/29330_2.png) [@Second\_Coming](https://community.frame.work/u/Second_Coming)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264/126 "2022-07-02T14:19:39Z")
> [@anon81945988](#): > > I put a thin 2 piece of plywood in one pocket I put a 3mm piece of [this](https://www.ebay.ca/itm/224459793441). ---
**Author:** ![Jason\_Dagless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@Jason\_Dagless](https://community.frame.work/u/Jason_Dagless)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264/127 "2022-07-02T14:37:52Z")
> [@Second\_Coming](#): > > I feel the same way as well. Hope the v2 lid will feel better. Waiting for reviews. The thing is…I’m not bothered by ‘thin & light’ I don’t mind some heft. I’m used to the turn of the century laptop that weighed 8lbs and the power supply another 2lbs. I had a different version of this for years… [https://www.newegg.com/compaq-presario-r3240us/p/N82E16834147043](https://www.newegg.com/compaq-presario-r3240us/p/N82E16834147043) I can handle some weight. I am not an enfeebled marmoset. Maybe instead of all the bells and whistles folks ask for maybe just build a thicker and deeper machine with a double capacity battery and better thermal cooling. I can go a kilo heavier no problem. I doubt any major corporation would dare take on Frameworks for business use. It would be carnage. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Second\_Coming](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/second_coming/32/29330_2.png) [@Second\_Coming](https://community.frame.work/u/Second_Coming)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264/128 "2022-07-02T14:41:37Z")
> [@Jason\_Dagless](#): > > I’m used to the turn of the century laptop that weighed 8lbs and the power supply another 2lbs. Same here…[W700](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Thinkpad-W700.12032.0.html) weight… ---
**Author:** ![Jason\_Dagless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@Jason\_Dagless](https://community.frame.work/u/Jason_Dagless)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264/129 "2022-07-02T14:42:23Z")
> [@Second\_Coming](#): > > Same here…[W700](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Thinkpad-W700.12032.0.html) weight… Made us the people we are today! 😉 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Second\_Coming](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/second_coming/32/29330_2.png) [@Second\_Coming](https://community.frame.work/u/Second_Coming)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264/130 "2022-07-02T14:42:55Z")
> [@Jason\_Dagless](#): > > Made us the people we are today! Didn’t need a gym membership back then. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Tango-Lowy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/67e7ee/32.png) [@Richard\_Tango-Lowy](https://community.frame.work/u/Richard_Tango-Lowy)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264/132 "2022-07-03T00:27:14Z")
I’m pretty rough on my electronics, which is why I’ve tended to lean toward Thinkpads. Over the years I’ve dropped them, banged them, poured water on the keyboards. Either they just keep working or IBM/Lenovo fixes them, no questions asked. I pay them for onsite repair because I know they’ll do it if I need it. My Framework is not that tough, and Framework support has not yet remotely hit that level. Nonetheless, over the past 8 months, my Framework _has_ been dropped and kicked around. It’s traveled (unpadded in my backpack) across the States. I’ve developed coursework on it in a remote jungle in Belize and run zoom classes from outdoors (during the daily downpour) in Grenada. I’ve yet to damage the screen or any other part of it in the least. Sure, I’d love the battery to run longer, but I’ve learned to squeeze what I’ve got pretty effectively. And honestly, after a couple years of use, I’m lucky if my XPS13s and Thinkpads run anywhere near as long without a battery swap, which is significantly more difficult and expensive than on the FW. Updated Jul 17: Darn, just dropped it again. Good thing it still works. [Previous page](https://community.frame.work/t/are-you-keeping-your-framework-laptop/18264.md?page=5)