# Does Qubes work on Framework 12? **URL:** \ **Category:** Community Support\ **Tags:** intel-13th, other-issues, keyboard-touchpad\ **Created:** [September 15, 2026, 2:06am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846 "2026-09-15T02:06:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![67tuffmangophonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/ac8455/32.png) [@67tuffmangophonk](https://community.frame.work/u/67tuffmangophonk)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 2:06am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/1 "2026-09-15T02:06:11Z")
i tried to put qubes it works but it has big problems what am i doing wrong? the mouse flings off to the side if you touch the pad, its very slow and unresponsive, and the ui doesnt consistently appear i know nvidia doesnt work with it but i think its intel it think its one of the lower end laptops but i forgot im not a technical user (dont ask why im running linux if im not technical) ---
**Author:** ![Squiggler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/squiggler/32/50136_2.png) [@Squiggler](https://community.frame.work/u/Squiggler)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 9:28am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/2 "2026-09-15T09:28:47Z")
I’ve not tried Qubes. I would suggest that if you’re new to Linux, you start with Ubuntu or Linux Mint. Either are going to have good levels of hardware support, and offer the kind of (mostly) works-out-of-the-box experience that makes it more straightforward. ---
**Author:** ![67tuffmangophonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/ac8455/32.png) [@67tuffmangophonk](https://community.frame.work/u/67tuffmangophonk)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 11:22am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/3 "2026-09-15T11:22:43Z")
should have mentioned im not completely new sorry lol ---
**Author:** ![Squiggler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/squiggler/32/50136_2.png) [@Squiggler](https://community.frame.work/u/Squiggler)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/4 "2026-09-15T12:33:10Z")
OK, can you show a screenshot or a short video of a problem? Choose one problem at a time. Can you reliably reproduce the UI not appearing? Has the laptop successfully booted (“POST”)? Is it the login screen that does not appear? ---
**Author:** ![67tuffmangophonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/ac8455/32.png) [@67tuffmangophonk](https://community.frame.work/u/67tuffmangophonk)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 11:36pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/5 "2026-09-15T23:36:41Z")
its 60-40 chance but the login does work painfully slowly and appears and it does boot its everything after the login like icons and sidebars which are needed to use the vms i was wondering if this is an install problem or a hardware problem if anyone knows i got it working fine on system 76 forgot what the specs are though ---
**Author:** ![Squiggler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/squiggler/32/50136_2.png) [@Squiggler](https://community.frame.work/u/Squiggler)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/6 "2026-09-15T23:42:37Z")
There probably isn’t enough information to go on here. ---
**Author:** ![67tuffmangophonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/ac8455/32.png) [@67tuffmangophonk](https://community.frame.work/u/67tuffmangophonk)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 11:43pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/7 "2026-09-15T23:43:50Z")
aw thanks for the replj though ) ---
**Author:** ![GhostLegion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/ghostlegion/32/3356_2.png) [@GhostLegion](https://community.frame.work/u/GhostLegion)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 8:09am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/8 "2026-09-16T08:09:18Z")
Are you familiar with QubesOS certified laptops? Because Framework isn’t one of them Given the entire OS is virtualized, if you haven’t turned VT-x and VT-d on in the UEFI, performance is gonna be painfully slow. I see that bare minimum recommended amount of RAM is 16GB but since it’s all VMs I would think it might be more to get decent performance depending on how many VMs are running… Have you tried an external mouse or other OS to see if your touchpad problems persist? That would tell you if it’s hardware or software at fault. ---
**Author:** ![xoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/43a26b/32.png) [@xoe](https://community.frame.work/u/xoe)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 1:19pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/9 "2026-09-16T13:19:00Z")
> [@GhostLegion](#): > > Are you familiar with QubesOS certified laptops? Because Framework isn’t one of them Qubes OS runs fine on many non-certified laptops, it’s not a requirement for hardware compatibility. > [@GhostLegion](#): > > Given the entire OS is virtualized, if you haven’t turned VT-x and VT-d on in the UEFI, performance is gonna be painfully slow. Qubes OS won’t even install if VT-x and VT-d aren’t already enabled (and I think they’re already enabled by default). > [@67tuffmangophonk](#): > > the mouse flings off to the side if you touch the pad, its very slow and unresponsive, and the ui doesnt consistently appear What do you mean by “UI doesn’t consistently appear”? For the mouse issue see if you’re affected by this same problem: [Touchpad mouse lagging - #4 by unman - User Support - Qubes OS Forum](https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/touchpad-mouse-lagging/42544/4) ---
**Author:** ![GhostLegion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/ghostlegion/32/3356_2.png) [@GhostLegion](https://community.frame.work/u/GhostLegion)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 3:23pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/10 "2026-09-16T15:23:06Z")
> [@xoe](#): > > Qubes OS runs fine on many non-certified laptops, it’s not a requirement for hardware compatibility. I don’t believe you saw me claim otherwise? But if OP doesn’t really know what they are doing then perhaps they should either stick to FW-supported distros for the FW12 or purchase a certified QubesOS compatible laptop. > [@xoe](#): > > Qubes OS won’t even install if VT-x and VT-d aren’t already enabled (and I think they’re already enabled by default). OP may have accidentally turned them off, I don’t know. I’m just spitballing here. OP hadn’t even mentioned taking basic troubleshooting steps like checking external mouse, reseating touchpad/keyboard connectors, etc. ---
**Author:** ![67tuffmangophonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/ac8455/32.png) [@67tuffmangophonk](https://community.frame.work/u/67tuffmangophonk)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/11 "2026-09-16T19:23:19Z")
i think its one of the lower end of them but idk how much ram it has exactly i havent used a external mouse or had any touchpad problems with other os ---
**Author:** ![GhostLegion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/ghostlegion/32/3356_2.png) [@GhostLegion](https://community.frame.work/u/GhostLegion)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2026, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/12 "2026-09-16T19:27:47Z")
If there’s a problem only in QubesOS with the touchpad then it’s a software problem with QubesOS. Are there any other users of QubesOS using Framework laptops on their forums reporting issues? That might cut down significantly on how much work you have to troubleshoot what the error is. I think I have seen a few threads on this forum regarding QubesOS you could search up and see what they reported? ---
**Author:** ![Jamison\_R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/jamison_r/32/50003_2.png) [@Jamison\_R](https://community.frame.work/u/Jamison_R)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 2:14am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/13 "2026-09-22T02:14:29Z")
Fedora (KDE) is doing okay out of the box for me but I’ve used Debian (KDE) for the last 20 years, so I’m doing better there… 😂 Windows, however, I had to jump over the: I’m paying for it why do I have to fix it! …hurdle; I have that set to an experimental Insider build and it seems to be working much better that way? Both via GRUB. **The reason I’m trying Fedora is because it’s officially supported by Framework.** Many years ago the thing I liked about distro hopping was, just install again to fix it. Doh. If you’re new, stick with the middleman Linuses, like Mint where people do stuff for you? ``` Edit\add: with Fedora and Windows we could also pay someone to be an admin. ;) ``` ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@Joe\_Name](https://community.frame.work/u/Joe_Name)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/does-qubes-work-on-framework-12/84846/14 "2026-09-22T14:39:19Z")
you could make qubes work on a framework 12, but it wouldn’t have very good battery life, and if you don’t have at least 32G of RAM the number of apps you could actually use would be limited. The 1334U is probably the best CPU for it - wildcat lake data isn’t really available yet.