Framework 16 Dimensions

We know nothing. Welcome to the forums! Sorry I don’t have a better answer for you!

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The dimensions of the screen are known at 16" 16:10, and dimensions of the expansion cards are also available, so you could try and extrapolate using those from the images we have.

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We know that the size and weight will depend on what you install in the expansion bay, for example a GPU or an additional battery will be heavier and thicker than an “empty” bay, so while you could estimate the top panel dimensions based on the (known) screen size, there’s still a large possible variability.

I think it may be ever so slightly bigger. In Framework’s own promo video, they show it against one of those ruled grid desk mats (heck are they called?) where the outermost scale appears to be inches. There’s some perspective to be reconciled, but it looks to me like it gets all of 14" across and maybe as much as 10.5" to the back (t=0:17-0:21), with an additional 0.5"+ for whatever chonky-butt GPU module they’re using there (t=0:24).

More than fair, if you ask me. I’d consider this quite portable for a full keyboard (yes to the numpad, please), big work-friendly screen, and modular GPU. Honestly I find it rather impressive given the inherent size penalty with making anything modular and serviceable.

And yes, I do feel silly for having spent several minutes staring at YouTube stills. I should probably get back to work now. And so should you, Framework. Get that preorder up!

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Nice catch on the grid mat! I watched videos that had the 13 & 16 side by side to do my scaling. I came up with 14" to 14.5" wide, 10.25" to 10.5" deep & @.875" thick.

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I hope it doesn’t weigh a ton. I’d like to be able to take the GPU out when I need more portability and weight savings.

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I wonder for how many connection cycles the expansion bay module connector is rated. If these are just thinly gold plated pads, they probably get scratched after many connection and disconnection cycles. Standard PC PCIe connectors are only rated for around 50 cycles. So I’d be careful and not swap them daily or even more often, at least until Framework tells us that it’s okay to do so and we get some long term experience.

Edit: it looks like changing the expansion bay requires disassembling the laptop and at least removing and reassembling two screws:

So I don’t think you’d want to do that regularly.

I also found a data sheet of these connectors, that says that they’re also only rated for 50 cycles:

Edit by Framework team:
There continues to be a lot of incorrect information echoing around the Expansion Bay connector.

We’re developing our own semi-custom connector with the supplier specifically to make it better for end-user handling. The datasheet that people are referencing that states 50 cycles is for an off the shelf connector that Framework Laptop 16 doesn’t ship with.

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Unfortunately, given the outdated chin design below the laptop screen, the FW16 is going to be far from portable for what it offers in terms of screen size. I assume you can get a bigger screen in a smaller laptop ;). For better portability you could consider the XPS 15 or XPS 17 laptops, or newest generation of Razer.

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Portability?

Xmg fusion

Well, I used to think so, but if I am not mistaken, the XMG Fusion is dead in the water, no? Last time I checked, they were selling an RTX 3070 in 2023 in a gaming notebook, which is an insult, considering other companies have 4080s/4090s in their comparable laptops (e.g. Razer)…

I have the same problem. I was eagerly awaiting the release of the 16 for my work. But If I compare the dimensions to my HP Omen 15 it’s a lot bigger with the GPU. And without it’s also too big that it won’t fit my (quite expensive) backpack that fits my current 15.6 inch laptop. The corners are already juuuuust fitting in. But an extra 2cm without the GPU will not fit at all. I now have a videocard in my laptop and I sometimes need it for video’s/graphic design. I’m sure this will not fit in most 15-16 inch back-packs.
So either I need to buy another brand or the 13 or a huge back-pack and the weight of the current one is already frigging annoying. (which is almost the same as the 16)

I have an Alienware backpack that fits up to a 17" laptop. However, I don’t understand how the framework doesn’t add a couple of backpacks to the market, one larger and one smaller.

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Since this originally was posted, we now have dimensions posted in their Specs.

It’s pretty big…

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The dimensions have been available sine July, it’s honestly just a bit bigger than most 15.6" laptops:

This aged so badly! :joy:

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It’s 4cm more depth with GPU than my Omen 15. (which is 15,6 inch)

This one just fits 2 work backpacks I have. One expensive one with a sideways slot from Ridgemont with a lot of pockets, very durable. I work as an IT coordinator (I should be a pedagogical one but ended up being mostly the technical one) in schools so super handy and already at the verge of being too big. I’m female so I feel like pulling an elephant on my back sometimes. :face_with_peeking_eye:My Omen just fits in. And I have a bad back.

I have another cheaper one, probably also won’t fit. With a slot in the backpack from the side up. The Ridgemont is water resistent and can take a hit. I need to cross playgrounds sometimes during heavy rain. I end up in uncomfy small places so my backpack can hit things.

It won’t fit my 16 inch sleeve either. Which is now a tad too big.

So it’s huge for me. My Omen is heavy as hell (2.5 kg) and it’s probably the same weight. The charger from my Omen is also a murder weapon though :face_with_peeking_eye::joy:.

I was hoping for something lighter as my Omen is from 2017 I think. I’m tired of carrying so much weight around. I mostly use an external screen.

I need lots of open browser tabs, intune/entra management, Outlook, OneNote, helpdesk, whatsapp all
open at the same time. Sometimes Da Vinci Resolve, Illustrator, virtual machine… I’m wondering if a pro 13 would do for me?
(Now i7, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, GTX1060 gpu.)
I’m not sure about the internal videocard. Anyone can advise me?

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I usually use that shoulder bag to carry my laptop, do you think it will be enough for the framework 16?

Doubtful. It lists internal dimensions of 38 x 27cm, and the Framework 16 is 35.6 x 29.0cm (with the graphics module installed).

Well, now you should consider the XPS 16 ;).

But I checked as soon as the XPS 16 came out. The FW16 is actually not bad at all despite the chin it has. It has very similar dimensions, but it is just a bit “longer” towards the back. That is actually something that even in a train or so when on the move shouldn’t be so bad.

And some people mentioned that the chin also does elevate the screen, making the viewing angle slightly better for posture - also true.

But yeah, the truth remains the same. If you want ultimate portability with large screens, then you should stay in the XPS line or similar, but certainly avoid laptops with a gigantic chin. :wink:

I’m slightly late to this, but I’m trying to find the dimensions of the actual rear expansion bay module, specifically how thick it is.