Strange, with the HIBee or the Cable Creation extensions my Fonken/DuHeSin adapters stick out almost exactly the same amount. Maybe the USB-C plug on your magnetic adapter is a different length?
This is just a complaint about the difference between the specified and the actual length of the HIEBee adapter. I’ve reported it on Amazon as well. Of course they’re not going to make the part smaller, but at least they could inform potential buyers correctly.
How does the expansion card affect battery times? If I recall correctly, Framework had some hibernation problems which came from the expansion cards (could be fixed by now, didn’t follow that closely). Especially the HIEbee which seems to have a display built in, wouldn’t that be a constant power draw? Is it relevant?
Amoun is right—it’s a straight passthrough, no power draw. Given the function of the HIEbee adapter, I’d guess that the display only powers on when it’s charging and completes the circuit, so it shouldn’t be any power draw when just connected to the laptop and not a charger.
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I’m curious, if I made the adapter but with the HIEbee extender and the iSkey magnetic bit will I still be at risk of this issue?
Killing the port on your motherboard will always be a risk. Regardless of which magnetic adapter you use. Companies like Apple who had official magnetic charging added extra protection circuity that standard usb-c does not have. It sucks but if you don’t want to risk killing the port on your motherboard, don’t do this. If you google magnetic adapters killing ports there are endless reports of it.
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I do wonder if the extra space within the card slot would allow you to fit more protection before the connections get to the “internal” port?
Well, you could do something. But depending on what you want to do with the magnetic connection it might be very difficult to impossible to add adequate protection. I believe some people are using their magnetic connection for high speed data in addition to charging. Protecting that would be a very big challenge. But if you’re only after charging over the magnetic connection, you should be able to do something to reduce your risk. Just not passing unnecessary data pins would at least protect them from shorts or arcs from nearby power pins.
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Would something like this work? It supposedly blocks data pins so only power is transmitted.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BMSNYV4/?coliid=I26BBFMDP2B7B5&colid=3VS4L4RIMI88F&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1
Maybe if they are mostly telling the truth. Always a gamble with unbranded chinese products. They don’t mention USB PD , but claim 50v 5A which is higher than the max USB PD Extended Power Range of 48v 5A / 240W. Hard to trust them when they use numbers that don’t match what’s possible and never even mention PD. Personally, if they can’t get that right I wouldn’t trust them to use quality connectors that are close to spec for carrying high amps. Even if it functions otherwise (triggers PD on both sides without passing data).
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On the point about protection circuitry, Apple does it using a negotiation system that won’t send any power until the negotiation connects and handshakes Unfortunately, Apple owns a patent to that technology.
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Could someone recommend a good online service for getting the case that is mentioned in the first post printed. I have never printed anything. I don’t know anything about materials or tolerances. Looking for some guidance and recommendations.
As an alternative, I would buy a printed case from someone willing to ship to Canada. I have the required parts, and just need the case.
Thanks.
Do you have any local Makerspace? Would be worth enquiring there to see if someone can print it.
Hey Hey Hey! I’m not fully into the framework community since I don’t own a laptop (I’m going to have one next year if everything goes well).
I really loved how accurate this thread is coming to life, and since I love alternative ways of charging the laptop, including doing it magnetically, like the Apple’s famous Magsafe connector, I’ve never found something better than that since it’s fast and secure.
Yesterday I’ve found something that could be a big game changer to this thread and maybe one of you can adapt this to be a possible expansion card:
Here’s what I’ve found: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2055569666/worlds-first-240w-magsafe-3-and-usb-c-magnetic-charging-cable
If this is adaptable to be an expansion card and the kickstarter project goes well, it could be mass produced and buy-able;
I’d love to see that single Apple exclusive thing that some other folks is looking for, ported to other devices.
Not to be a downer, but this is physically impossible and nearly 100% a scam.
You cannot do USB 40Gbps through 5 pins. It’s impossible to do it with copper signalling, and there is definetly not a giant optical fibre coverter in that small enclosure.
While it is possible to do it’s claim of 240W (USB PD works just fine with USB 2.0 4-pin), higher PD becomes more and more dangerous as the voltage between pins becomes absurdly high (48V for 240W).
This exacerbates current dangers of MagSafe.
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Wow, they actually do clearly say 5 pins and claim 40Gbps. With pictures. Couldn’t be more blatant BS lies if they tried.
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Even if it reaches that maximum cap of 240W, what even distribute this much power? and for what? A laptop, plugged to a 60w charger, and even if doesn’t have 40Gbs, they at least made a Mac compatibile charger!
I don’t understand if you’re being ironic to me or with me, this confuses me even more.
At this point you can tell that this project is all a hoax, right?
I did not mean to confuse you. Also did not mean any disrespect. My apologies.
Yes, that kickstarter is a scam, without a doubt. As Shiroudan said, it’s just not possible to do what they claim. There are certain unavoidable requirements, and the images that they show can not even come close to what’s required.
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