When it finally arrives (batch 16, going to take a while), the FW16 will replace my desktop computer. My desktop will become the family Entertainment computer for gaming, movies, music streaming, YouTube videos, etc.
My daily computer tasks include MS Office apps, Adobe Creative Suite, and Sibelius (music composition software), as well as basic internet usage through Firefox (personal) or Chrome (work). I’ll definitely be using headphones for audio work, but I think the system I’ve ordered is more than sufficient for my computing needs. My desktop (MSI Trident 3 - i7-8700 CPU) is about 7 years old and it’s still running OK, although I did have to upgrade the memory a couple years back.
New system specs
System: Ryzen™ 9 7940HS
Memory: DDR5-5600 - 64GB (2 x 32GB)
Operating System: Windows 11 Home
Storage: WD_BLACK™ SN850X NVMe™- M.2 2280 - 4TB
gonna use it to study game design at my institute, it’s gonna be the first laptop after 10 (or more) years and i didnt want to have something i would slowly see the death of. also the gpu on my desktop is a still honest 1070, but i bet this is gonna be a big improvment for ue5 and adobe.
Since i should be batch 6 (don’t remember where to check) i must start figuring out a 2230 m.2 to buy for it since i bought the diy withouth ssd’s
Mine (batch 17) is going to replace my ageing Thinkpad T480 (four-core/eight-thread/1.6GHz i5-8250U, 14" screen, 32GB RAM, 2TB of relatively-slow SATA SSD storage), which I use for professional Python/C++ coding, running virtual machines (runs right around the 31GB-used mark with my usual set of VMs, one for each client), and general email, web browsing, finance-tracking, note-taking, and the like.
Larger screen, double the CPU cores, more than double the base CPU clock speed, double the memory, MUCH faster SSD storage… it’ll mop the floor with the T480. Only thing I’ll miss is the T480’s extended and hot-swappable battery.
I’ll be installing Ubuntu 24.04 on it, on the assumption that it’ll be out before I get the machine. Probably a safe assumption, from what I’m seeing.
I have a Gaming Rig with a 1080Ti + 7800K CPU + 32GBytes. As soon as my FW arrives (monday) I can start doing some benchmarks and compare.
I think that the faster RAM bus will help a lot, and the way faster drives - SSD NVMe4 Gen4 vs. NVMe Gen3. So in general, it will be way faster yes. Will check the games though. Bet I’ll need a different power supply for that though. 180W ought to not being enough here.
I would love to see the results of those tests! I’ve got a similar system as my desktop that the FW16 is going to be replacing. I have a GTX 1080 with an i7 6850K also with 32 GB of RAM. Most of my hard drives are all SATA (either SSD or HDD) with one cheap NVME that was given to me by a friend. I’m wondering how much of an upgrade I’m getting.
since my earlier posts, i get to revise that my fw16 will replace the 11th gen intel fw13 factory seconds machine i purchased in order to be able to get some basic work done in the intervening months. the 12 year old macbook pro wasn’t cutting it anymore.
(i have have a new home lined up for the fw13 later this year, so it’s not going to languish on a shelf or anything come my batch 15 order.)
So i got my Framework 16 on the 26 and i like it i don´t love it. I really don´t care about the littel imperfections of the Spacers next to the Tuchpad module.
I had gaming Laptops bevore and it is not louder than my old Lenovo Legion.
I love the Options in Windows i sadly don´t have the Linux knolege to tell you much # i can´t launch Steam with the icon only with the Terminal and i dont understand why.
But i dont have that problem in linux i can´t start some games like Cyberpunk but others work good.
I want to do more with Ubuntu and get more familiar with Línux but i really dont know where to start.
If you have any Distro recomandations pleas tell me.
I started out with Ubuntu in 2007. I’ve tried several other distributions (I have a friend who’s been using Linux since the early 1990s, and continually urges me to try the latest and greatest thing), but I keep coming back to Ubuntu. I haven’t been a new Linux user for a while, but it still feels like the most new-user-friendly distribution to me.
(As with any Linux recommendation, “your mileage may vary.” )
i run xubuntu myself. familiar package management, ux that works better for me. (xfce isn’t for everyone tho)
this is somewhat surprising; i don’t currently have a machine with a gpu right now (aside from my steam deck, and eventually my fw16) but i have done extensive linux gaming in the past. i’m not aware of any specific reason you shouldn’t be able to get cyberpunk 2077 working on ubuntu.
are we talking about the steam version, or from another storefront? it’d impact how you would approach making sure you have the right compatibility framework involved.
For me it’s become my primary machine. Downsizing from a 2019 Mac Pro. Don’t need something that powerful anymore and wanted to support the Right to Repair mission. I didn’t like Apple’s shift to ARM as it makes the laptops even more limited at gaming than they already were. No more dual booting into Windows when the work was done for the day. I couldn’t justify their pricing anymore for a machine that can only do pro work. Got to have fun at the end of the day.
Even their desktops use arm now, and not even a more powerful one, last i checked on their site they didnt have anything with more cpu power than their ipad pro, and this was only a couple months ago, it seems like a really wild direction to go, cause their arm cpus beat anyone elses sure, but they dont beat anyone elses top cpus for laptops or desktops. And even for arm cpus, if the early benchmarks are to believed, there are some claims at the next arm cpus coming even with theirs, one gen back, but thats phone cpu compared to what they are putting in laptops and “desktops”
Their M2 “Ultra” chips in the Mac Studio are a lot more powerful than what’s in the iPad Pro. Just saying. Technically, the highest spec M2 Ultra in the Mac Studio has more CPU and far more GPU cores (and higher max RAM capacity and twice the memory bandwidth) than what’s even in the latest, M3 MacBook Pro. And I imagine they’ll come out with an M3 Ultra sooner or later. Don’t get me wrong, I see what you are saying, but the M2 Ultra is basically two M2 Max chips sandwiched together. It’s far more powerful than the tablet or even laptop chips. So their Mac “studio” is a pretty beastly machine, all things considered. It’s also STUPIDLY priced if you actually spec it out to that level.
The arm chips have plenty of power for some things but a lot of workloads don’t take advantage of the high core count, sometimes you just need solid single threaded performance.
I just checked, and while im not certain, i believe i last checked their site just before the m2 ultra came out, i might have just missed it, but it was last year during summer that i had last checked, and yeah, its powerful, for arm, but its not even close to comparing with the top desktop processors, look at intels last i9 generation, its the same number of cores, but clocked at almost double the speed, the gpu is more powerful than whats in that intel, but you pair it with even a low end dgpu and you are now blowing them out of the water. Obviously these decisions work for them, im just saying, they arent really powerhouses.
Is that a downsize at all? That laptops best processor option topped at a 5ghz turbo, same number of cores, slightly smaller cache, worst case assumption for amd being super poorly optimized, it should be a lateral move, with better graphics.
I wasn’t saying there aren’t more powerful PC components out there. I was just pointing out that there is actually a pretty big difference between the different “M” series chips. Even the M1 ultra is more powerful than the base M2 or even M3 chip. That’s all. I’m certainly not trying to defend Apple. I’m actually trying to move away from using their stuff.
On that subject, one of the ways I plan to use my FW 16 is to replace an M1 Max, Mac Studio that I’ve been using since it came out for video and photo editing. I expect the FW 16 to perform better (fingers crossed), and I’m looking forward to the portability as well. It will be nice to have the option to edit and such on the go, if needed.
No, and i dont wanna sound like im hating on them, i dont agree with how they do things, but their users are happy, and its making them money, so obviously people want things the way they do it, i have an issue with how they respond to uk consumer protection stuff, and ill shame them for that, but hardware choices etc, its hitting a target, just like framework
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