Would be so cool if it had separate compute (Altho mainboard kinda is that) and separate GPU modules that you’d slot into the case. Like an actual lego-style PC. Some NUC kits did try that but they’re gone now 
I personally find disappointing the approach here.
The ai max+ 395 128Gb model seems to be oriented towards the AI market yet albeit you can assign a amount enough VRAM (96gb in windows, in Linux it seems you can use more) it lacks the computational power a 4090 card can offer (129 TOPs against 508 TOPs in the Nvidia).
A nice solution would be to offer a proper pcie4 x16 as the processor is capable to support that unfortunately that is not the case, and thus this product has no market.
I would understand the power limitations in a laptop but this is a desktop. No excuses.
Yeah… revolutionary for making a few people and companies very rich while taking away jobs from others, stealing IP and violating copyright, hallucinating information, being very bad at relatively simple math, having a negative impact on education and learning, etc etc.
But I guess you get a low effort JPEG after expending 33Wh, so i guess that’s great…
I also never said it was the biggest. But your locally running GPU isn’t the real problem.
$500 billion for AI companies, $0 for climate change mitigation.
That’s lots of misconceptions.
But I guess you get a low effort JPEG after expending 33Wh, so i guess that’s great…
I was always told art is subjective, and I can get images I consider very high quality, and more importantly I can make images of what I have in mind for e.g. my D&D campaigns. It’s truly transformative.
E.g. Cobbe GIovatta is a dislexic orc journalist that runs the most popular tabloid in Waterdeep. This image needed 349W for 39s. That’s 3.78Wh or the equivalent of boiling 6.02g of water. You’d need a lot more energy if you did it with a traditional photoshop workflow, say 200W for 3h totaling 600Wh/955g of boiled water.
GenANI assist SAVES energy.
Compare with E.g. running an hairdrier for 30 minutes at 1500 W and that’s 770Wh or the energy to boil 1194g of water. Your household activities use lots of energy.
Yeah… revolutionary for making a few people and companies very rich while taking away jobs from others, stealing IP and violating copyright, hallucinating information, being very bad at relatively simple math, having a negative impact on education and learning, etc etc.
GenANI assist steals NOTHING. My Cobbe Giovatta never existed before I diffused it. It’s my derivative artwork and it stole nothing from nobody. I also believe in open source, so when I make good homebrews, I share that with other DMs so they can use them in their campaigns.
That’s how creativity works. E.g. Anybody can look at Warhol artwork, and sell derivative work inspired by that and it’s perfectly legal. Everything human make is derivative, that dragon you make is a remix of millenia worth of dragon lore.
Using a GenANI assist tool to make Warhol cats make no difference. More to the point, art has a long, and I mean LONG history of bullying new tools. Literally every new tool has been bullied before being considered mainstream art. Here is my favourite quote from the 1800s about photography. A machine where you click and it makes a copyrighted image of somethign you do not own:
Charles Baudelaire wrote, in a review of the Salon of 1859: “If photography is allowed to supplement art in some of its functions, it will soon supplant or corrupt it altogether, thanks to the stupidity of the multitude which is its natural ally.”
“At the other extreme, there was outright denial and hostility. One outraged German newspaper thundered, “To fix fleeting images is not only impossible … it is a sacrilege … God has created man in his image and no human machine can capture the image of God. He would have to betray all his Eternal Principles to allow a Frenchman in Paris to unleash such a diabolical invention upon the world”[12]. Baudelaire described photography as “art’s most mortal enemy” and as “that upstart art form, the natural and pitifully literal medium of expression for a self-congratulatory, materialist bourgeois class” [13]. Other reputed doom-laden predictions were that photography signified “the end of art” (J.M.W. Turner); and that painting would become “dead” (Delaroche) or “obsolete” (Flaubert) [14].”
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Thanks for registering an account in order to display your disappointment. It’s appreciated.
Not sure I follow your point about the 4090 comparison though, one has a lot of computational power but limited VRAM, the other has lots of VRAM and limited computational power.
Perhaps these are different tools for different problems? You know, the same way that it’s entirely possible for a Ferrari and a Jeep to exist. I’d love a Ferrari … but I’m not sure I’d go rock crawling in one. Similarly, I’d not spend a lot of time racing the Nürburgring in my Jeep.
As for your question about PCIe lanes … of course, 16 total PCIe lanes are available with this processor so it is entirely possible to have all 16 dedicated to a GPU … and with the space saved by removing the now useless NVME slots, they could probably fit the x16 slot on there as well. Might have a spot of trouble booting it up though.
Ah well, never mind.
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LOL with smug comments like this I understand why people dislike this brand.
Right now the minis forum ai X1 pro looks like a better purchase at less half the price and better modularity. At least you can get it to run games with an egpu.
Let that sink in.
When I consider to get similar performance using X1. It is almost the same price.
1089 (X1 Pro with 96G RAM) + 99(eGPU dock) + 450(RTX 4060) + 100(Power supply for eGPU)
This total solution still have less cores and less memory speed tham AI MAX 395+.
After all, that is not an apple to apple comparison.
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Defining and quantifying the meaningfulness of art by the number of watts it cost to produce is the kind of rhetoric a lot of us are railing against.
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LOL the disinformation. The minisforums already have a igpu with a 890m which is more than capable to play games by less than half the price and still offers more connectivity being able to use egpus.
But I say minisforums because it’s already out, you can be sure there are coming more minipcs at better pricing and same practical results
As I said absolutely no reason to buy this.
The Minisforum Ai ones can be compared to the new laptop amd 13" by specs.
So its pretty much in different league than the Desktop.
Its ok if its not for you, but there are people that would prefer something like this compared to a Mac Studio for example.
For other it might be perfect dev+gaming+local AI machine. Atleast that is what I am going to be using it for.
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I’ve had a few jobs recently where I didn’t really need a laptop, as I rarely needed to work on the go but a small, portable but powerful desktop that I could move between offices would have been great. I see this filling that niche nicely.
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Which messages are considered disinformation?
Although the HX370’s built-in 890m graphics deliver decent performance, they are far from the performance level of an RTX 4060. Not to mention, they are nowhere near sufficient for someone who genuinely wants to run 3D games. You are deliberately misleading people by attempting to compare two entirely different things. This machine may not be suitable for you, but that is not a reason for you to spread misinformation.
Moreover, this VRAM actually has enough capacity to accommodate a 70B AI model, providing more room for development.
As mentioned earlier, your example is not an apples-to-apples comparison.
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