# Maybe have a high refresh rate on the screen? **URL:** \ **Category:** Framework Laptop 13\ **Created:** [July 11, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505 "2023-07-11T23:50:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Adam\_Corley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Adam\_Corley](https://community.frame.work/u/Adam_Corley)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/1 "2023-07-11T23:50:32Z")
PLEASE PLEASE, make a 120 Hertz screen for this. It make everyone’s Experience while using the laptop and improves any kind of screen spikes. ---
**Author:** ![Matthew\_Quarisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Matthew\_Quarisa](https://community.frame.work/u/Matthew_Quarisa)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 1:09am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/3 "2023-07-12T01:09:50Z")
> [@Adam\_Corley](#): > > PLEASE PLEASE, make a 120 Hertz screen for this. It make everyone’s Experience while using the laptop and improves any kind of screen spikes. Feel free to drag me into this, +1 to a 120Hz screen on the 13. ---
**Author:** ![Colin\_Smith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/colin_smith/32/15544_2.png) [@Colin\_Smith](https://community.frame.work/u/Colin_Smith)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 2:52am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/4 "2023-07-12T02:52:45Z")
A higher refresh rate screen is the main thing I’ve been missing in my move to the framework, so I’d love to see an option for that in the future. Although, I feel like this’d be a ways off if they do decide to make one. ---
**Author:** ![JoaquinVacas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/joaquinvacas/32/14411_2.png) [@JoaquinVacas](https://community.frame.work/u/JoaquinVacas)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 6:45am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/5 "2023-07-12T06:45:38Z")
It would be cool as long as its variable refresh rate for longer battery life ---
**Author:** ![Bobby\_Michael](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/bobby_michael/32/16644_2.png) [@Bobby\_Michael](https://community.frame.work/u/Bobby_Michael)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/6 "2023-07-12T19:24:38Z")
Yep. I almost didn’t buy the FW13 strictly because the lack of a high refresh rate panel. The latest matte panel is great but I can’t get over the 60HZ. I need higher! ---
**Author:** ![MarcusW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/marcusw/32/16781_2.png) [@MarcusW](https://community.frame.work/u/MarcusW)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/7 "2023-07-18T17:18:13Z")
Please offer a user up-gradable 13" panel supporting 120hz, I’d gladly pay for it and also mail you back the original 60hz matte panel so it could be re-used in refurb systems or re-sold to people for spares / upgrades! ---
**Author:** ![nitrousgranola](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/nitrousgranola/32/1021_2.png) [@nitrousgranola](https://community.frame.work/u/nitrousgranola)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/8 "2023-07-19T01:58:10Z")
I will say that the 165 Hz panel in the Framework 16” is VERY welcomed. But in a 13”, as nice as it sounds, I don’t know how large the impact on battery draw would be. ---
**Author:** ![Awakening](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac8455/32.png) [@Awakening](https://community.frame.work/u/Awakening)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 2:16am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/9 "2023-07-19T02:16:51Z")
I’d much prefer a 90hz OLED to a 120hz+ screen of any other type. Samsung has been selling a 14" 2880x1800 90hz OLED for two years so I imagine it wouldn’t be crazy expensive for FW to source. The refresh rate itself doesn’t matter, your screen trying to update the image 120 times a second is pointless if the pixels cant actually change colour in time to show the changes, and FAR too many mobile panels simply cannot match their refresh rate. Hell, the FW16 has a Rise+Fall time of 9ms which means 1000/9=111hz actual refresh rate. Sure, the pixels refresh 165 times but the colours you’re being shown end up being somewhere between the start colour and the desired colour in some of the frames. With high framerate you’re trying to get rid of image persistence. OLED’s have an instant response time and a 90hz OLED just feels better than any 120hz. ---
**Author:** ![Chi\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Chi\_Man](https://community.frame.work/u/Chi_Man)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 6:04am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/10 "2023-07-19T06:04:04Z")
yeah more display options of various resolution + refresh-rate combos would be nice… - 1920x1200 75/144/240hz - 2560x1600 60/90/144hz - 3840x2400 60hz - VA/IPS/MiniLED/OLED - glossy/matte/privacy filter options 4K would be more optimal if the display on the Framework 16 can be upgraded to 17 inches and if a 94Wh battery (10% larger like on the Framework 13.5) and/or extra 45Wh expansion bay battery were offered as well. Then we have the possibility of some insane AMD APUs and more energy efficient Zen 4c CPUs coming next year. Just imagine integrated graphics having 30% more grunt than the RX 7700S being offered right now with a 30% reduction (180W \>\> 126W) in total system power draw or 50W+ of headroom that could be allocated to storage, mini dev boards, accelerator cards, and other specialty hardware that can be mounted in the expansion bay or on the keyboard deck. ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Joachim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/adrian_joachim/32/9949_2.png) [@Adrian\_Joachim](https://community.frame.work/u/Adrian_Joachim)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 6:15am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/11 "2023-07-19T06:15:02Z")
> [@Awakening](#): > > Samsung has been selling a 14" 2880x1800 90hz OLED for two years so I imagine it wouldn’t be crazy expensive for FW to source. It’s not that expensive but it is slightly too big for the 13 and way too small for the 16. Additionally, it needs to be powered differently and has a different pinout than regular lcd panels. Putting a slightly smaller version of it into the 13 would be amazing though once one shows up. ---
**Author:** ![jcit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@jcit](https://community.frame.work/u/jcit)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 9:11am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/12 "2023-07-20T09:11:29Z")
I’m really hoping now that they’ve sourced a decent panel for the 16, they could do the same for the 13. My personal wishlist for a nice display upgrade - 90hz or above with variable refresh rate (120/144 is a good sweet spot) - Low persistance - HDR support - OLED (probably not gonna happen, but who knows) ---
**Author:** ![Aurelien\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/aurelien_d/32/16071_2.png) [@Aurelien\_D](https://community.frame.work/u/Aurelien_D)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 10:22am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/14 "2023-07-20T10:22:02Z")
> [@anon81945988](#): > > if you read the specs at But if you read the tag of this discussion … ahah just kidding 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Berlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/berlyn/32/19107_2.png) [@Berlyn](https://community.frame.work/u/Berlyn)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/15 "2023-10-30T23:02:49Z")
Hopefully responding to this older thread is okay, but I would also like to put my hand up for a higher refresh rate display option for the Framework 13. It is definitely one of the things I miss from my previous device. ---
**Author:** ![Gregory\_Loscombe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/gregory_loscombe/32/15790_2.png) [@Gregory\_Loscombe](https://community.frame.work/u/Gregory_Loscombe)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/16 "2023-11-07T13:45:09Z")
Yep, wanted to give my +1 to higher fresh screen. Ideally 120hz option to match the new dell monitor ultrasharps that have been announced. ---
**Author:** ![lane\_ftw](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/lane_ftw/32/20490_2.png) [@lane\_ftw](https://community.frame.work/u/lane_ftw)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/17 "2023-11-07T18:49:38Z")
Not that I’m really trying to game on this, but man, I didn’t know they still made displays with this level of ghosting. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/framework3/original/3X/9/5/95f110b55b2a6d4241b3fea973ddfc3c5ca8126c.jpeg "Gaming on the AMD Framework 13! Native, Docked & eGPU Performance.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo3nze33hfo&t=246) ---
**Author:** ![Hotdog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/hotdog/32/17239_2.png) [@Hotdog](https://community.frame.work/u/Hotdog)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/maybe-have-a-high-refresh-rate-on-the-screen/33505/18 "2024-01-11T21:20:05Z")
When the upgrade finally does become available i’m jumping on it. I dont mind the display for just casual day to day use or for writing. However it be nice to have a 120hz option. I’m sure it will come eventually.