Need to vent about the screws holding the keyboard in

i have an earlier gen fw13 input cover (not sure if first or later), and I’m trying to replace the keyboard right now, and there are 3 of those little black screws that are absolutely stuck.

infuriating.

I’ve tried

  • glue
  • rubber band
  • drilling

I can’t get any tool to get a grip on these remaining screws – which is really frustrating because the other screws came out so easily.

bah

ah-ha!

needle-nosed pliers saved me.

I gripped the screw, and slowly twisted the pliers

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You mean removing the keyboard from the input cover? Yeah, that does not seem worth it for most people. Framework should put a warning on the keyboard that it’s not easy swap.

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well, many steps + including dealing with philips screws and detaching the cables doesn’t really bother me.

this is the guide: Keyboard Replacement Guide - Framework Guides

it’s very easy to follow

when the screws betray me, that’s when I get bothered – as they just won’t be going back in to the case, and my laptop will weigh less when put back together

They don’t betray, really. Such tiny low-profile Philips are terrible, it’s just who they are. They are dying to cam-out and strip on you.

I understand why they need to be used, ultra low-profile heads don’t offer space for the pocket of anything else, but it doesn’t make it better.

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i imagine star screws would be possible – though I don’t know of what size

but.. as sucky as flatheads are… I wonder if those would be better at this size even

do the latest fw13s still have the same screws under the keyboard?

this could be improved for future generations!

Star, torx, or anything else needs a certain minimum depth within the head for the socket. But Philips, because it’s triangle shaped, can “cheat”. The point of Philips is only at the center of the shaft. It’s pocket is removing less material at the inside corners where the shaft connects to the head. So it’s just the only thing that can fit in the lowest-profile heads.

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