Power draw during sleep

[JF_Maion]

I’ve found other threads about this, but they are old and more importantly, don’t seem to provide with a solution.

I recently switched from a Dell XPS to the FW 13 AI, and I’ve gone from barely noticeable to 30-40% battery draw overnight when in sleep (standard Ubuntu).

This makes it fairly useless and has already led to practical issues when I forget to fully power off the laptop (dead battery, or battery too low requiring change of plans…). I’m not interested in hibernation (64 GB RAM), a sleep-to-shutdown option would work in a pinch, but ideally I would like to get back ”proper sleep” without having to tinker too much with the configuration.

Any help highly appreciated!

EDIT: FWIW, here is the output from amd-s2idle test with default parameters:

AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 w/ Radeon 890M (family 1a model 24)
Framework Laptop 13 (AMD Ryzen AI 300 Series) (Laptop)
Ubuntu 25.04
Kernel 6.14.0-33-generic
Battery BAT1 (NVT FRANGWA) is operating at 102.15% of design
ASPM policy set to ‘default’
GPIO driver pinctrl_amd available
PMC driver amd_pmc loaded (Program 11 Firmware 93.10.0)
USB3 driver xhci_hcd bound to 0000:c1:00.4, 0000:c3:00.0, 0000:c3:00.3, 0000:c3:00.4
USB4 driver thunderbolt bound to 0000:c3:00.5, 0000:c3:00.6
System is configured for s2idle
GPU driver amdgpu bound to 0000:c1:00.0
PC6 and CC6 enabled
SMT enabled
IOMMU properly configured
ACPI FADT supports Low-power S0 idle
Logs are provided via cysystemd
LPS0 _DSM enabled
WLAN driver mt7925e bound to 0000:c0:00.0
Started at 2025-10-31 11:49:55.318820 (cycle finish expected @ 2025-10-31 11:50:09.441811)
Results from last s2idle cycle
Summary
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│ Start Time │ Duration │ Hardware Sleep │ Battery Start │ Battery Delta │ Battery Ave Rate │ Wake Pin │ Wake Interrupt │
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│ 2025-10-31 11:49:55 │ 0:00:12 │ 41.67% │ 39.96% │ -0.03% │ -0.23W │ │ ACPI SCI │
╘═════════════════════╧════════════╧══════════════════╧═════════════════╧═════════════════╧════════════════════╧════════════╧══════════════════╛
Hardware sleep cycle count: 1
Notify devices [‘UBTC’] found during suspend

[tor1]

Unfortunately I don’t think there is a solution for this. I have a similar power draw in sleep (FW13, AI 350 CPU, gentoo linux, many different kernels). When I take it out of the case when it is in sleep mode, it is noticeably warm because of the power draw. Before the FW13 I was using a Dell Latitude 5490, which worked great in sleep and would last several days. I need to have working sleep for my job, so this is a major issue- right now I wouldn’t buy the FW13 again.

I have verified that it has nothing to do with the USB ports- it still happens with all of them removed. Another test I want to do is to remove the NVME drive, boot to linux from a flash drive, and see what the sleep power draw is- that would rule out problems with the NVME power usage.

[Deskrye]

I’m about to buy a framework13, so no direct experience, but my old Dell XPS regularly (though not always) does this. I travel with it in a case and after a flight recently it was too hot to hold except by the edges! its on Win10 and i’ve always assumed it’s a Windows issue? - obviously something else…

[JF_Maion]

Could it be that is was woken up during the trip?

That’s another thing I noticed with the FW13: it is quite sensitive to being woken up when applying pressure on the (closed) lid. Never happened with my previous XPS, but several times with the FW13 in a couple of months. Not sure if it’s the taller screen, or more flexible shell material, but I’ve learned to be careful with not packing my bag too tight when traveling, and I’m even considering adding a plywood panel to the bag’s laptop sleeve to prevent the issue.

[Deskrye]

Possibly, when travelling - but when on my desk overnight in sleep mode it can have a full battery or a near empty battery in the morning. It seems to be random. I’m trying to check if hibernate is the same, but i keep questioning my memory - hoping a new machine (framework) doesn’t do similar

[tor1]

The problem is not caused by the laptop being woken up from sleep, it appears to be a continuous power drain during sleep mode. If you compare the battery percentage drain reported by amd-s2idle, you will find that it is consistent with the 30-40% drain overnight.

The power in watts reported by amd-s2idle is wrong however- the value reported by amd-s2idle is way too small. For mine the actual power drain in sleep is something like 1 W or more, which is enough to make the laptop feel warm when coming out of the case. For comparison, the lowest power usage I see with powertop with the laptop running is 3.8 W (display 50%, wifi off).