# Removable battery prospect?
**URL:** https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910
**Category:** General Topics
**Created:** [November 13, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910 "2021-11-13T00:23:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@Spyros](https://community.frame.work/u/Spyros)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/1 "2021-11-13T00:23:56Z")
Is there any chance that a removable battery is under consideration for future models? Notice that I’m talking about the plug-unplug kind of removable.
Personally, I very much like the concept of carrying a spare battery around and being able to just plug it in if necessary.
I get, however, that this may be taking things a bit too far and admittedly, not seeing anyone else talking about it makes me think it wouldn’t be among the most popular features, but since we’re talking about a modular laptop, I figured it would make some sense.
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### Author:  [@Chris\_Eden](https://community.frame.work/u/Chris_Eden)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/2 "2021-11-13T00:35:49Z")
Given how quicky any of my laptops seem to discharge, I’d be more than happy to care a spare battery or two to be able to have my laptop on the go without having to find an outlet wherever I am.
I do this with my power tools and used to do it with my BlackBerry in the old days…doesn’t seem like a bad idea at all.
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### Author:  [@Jacob\_Padgett](https://community.frame.work/u/Jacob_Padgett)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2021, 12:52am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/3 "2021-11-13T00:52:08Z")
> [@Spyros](#):
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> Personally, I very much like the concept of carrying a spare battery around and being able to just plug it in if necessary.
So do I. I carry a USB-C PD power bank that I can also use to charge my phone. Go for a 60W one!
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### Author:  [@Chris\_Eden](https://community.frame.work/u/Chris_Eden)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/4 "2021-11-13T01:38:40Z")
> [@Jacob\_Padgett](#):
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> So do I. I carry a USB-C PD power bank that I can also use to charge my phone. Go for a 60W one!
Since there won’t be a Framework for a while, if at all, with a swappable battery, is shouldn’t be too off-topic to ask - recommendations for power banks for this laptop?
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### Author:  [@Jacob\_Padgett](https://community.frame.work/u/Jacob_Padgett)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2021, 2:01am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/5 "2021-11-13T02:01:54Z")
@Chris_Eden Anker has a reputation for decent power banks, though I actually haven’t tried other brands, so I’m admittedly biased. [This](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08537MKBS) has great capacity but is pricey and a bit heavy, so you might find [this](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FX8GKJ5) more reasonable.
Note that it doesn’t _need_ to be 60W, despite what I said earlier:
> [@USB-C charging](http://community.frame.work/t/usb-c-charging/447/3):
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> The Laptop is designed to operate with chargers 60W+, but we can support anything down to about 15W -
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### Author:  [@Chris\_Eden](https://community.frame.work/u/Chris_Eden)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/6 "2021-11-13T02:34:51Z")
> [@Jacob\_Padgett](#):
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> Note that it doesn’t _need_ to be 60W, despite what I said earlier:
The 45W shouldn’t be bad, and a slow charge is certainly better than no charge. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Nich\_Trimble](https://community.frame.work/u/Nich_Trimble)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/7 "2021-11-13T03:43:05Z")
If you were to keep the laptop locked to its lower power state, you might be able to get away with a 30W, since the CPU cant boost above 25W or sustain at more than 15
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### Author:  [@hardtimefor1](https://community.frame.work/u/hardtimefor1)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2021, 6:53am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/8 "2021-11-13T06:53:52Z")
> [@Jacob\_Padgett](#):
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> Note that it doesn’t _need_ to be 60W, despite what I said earlier:
Some people seem to have issues at charging with lower wattages (still more than 15) so I wouldn’t be so confident in that. Though the ability to provide for example 30W at 20V instead of 5V is something to look out for since the laptop wouldn’t charge very well with the 5V designed for smaller devices.
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### Author:  [@Jacob\_Padgett](https://community.frame.work/u/Jacob_Padgett)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2021, 8:21am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/9 "2021-11-13T08:21:00Z")
@hardtimefor1 Good point about the ongoing issue with low-wattage chargers (links for those not in the loop: [1](http://community.frame.work/t/charging-from-a-30-watt-usb-pd-charger-not-working/), [2](http://community.frame.work/t/usb-pd-15v-mode-issue)) I hope this and other similar issues are just caused by a firmware bug and not a hardware issue. That said, you don’t need to worry about voltage for USB PD chargers, since sources of a given wattage are required to support specific voltages ([fig. 7 and below](https://www.ti.com/lit/wp/slyy109a/slyy109a.pdf)). Any source over 15 W must be able to supply 9 V, 15 V for over 27 W, etc (notice that the charger pictured in the first linked thread follows these rules). Devices negotiate the highest values they can use … if they’re working as intended.
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### Author:  [@Animesh\_Sahu](https://community.frame.work/u/Animesh_Sahu)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2021, 12:16pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/10 "2021-11-13T12:16:10Z")
I’m also expecting to have a sleek/slim dock about half of the width of laptop itself, which hooks to the expansion card from any side by push-pull logic (L shaped connection).
It could contain a long battery which could be used when at home and no electricity, as well as it can serve as a table which can put the laptop’s backside a bit over the front for better vents and palmrest.
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### Author:  [@David\_Tan](https://community.frame.work/u/David_Tan)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/11 "2021-12-15T02:34:19Z")
Gigabyte and XMG already solved this with their A5 X1 model. I hope framework can follow as well
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### Author:  [@Nich\_Trimble](https://community.frame.work/u/Nich_Trimble)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/removable-battery-prospect/10910/12 "2021-12-16T01:58:23Z")
That is also a 5lb, 15in gaming laptop, not a 13" that’s thinner than a macbook. I’m sure it’d be possible, but it would probably compromise the already middling battery life.