# \[Solved\] - Cannot charge framework 13 on 2A phone charger or car usb port **URL:** \ **Category:** Community Support\ **Tags:** other-issues, amd-7040\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/solved-cannot-charge-framework-13-on-2a-phone-charger-or-car-usb-port/75127 "2025-09-10T21:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![seanyoung](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/seanyoung/32/40884_2.png) [@seanyoung](https://community.frame.work/u/seanyoung)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/solved-cannot-charge-framework-13-on-2a-phone-charger-or-car-usb-port/75127/1 "2025-09-10T21:04:36Z")
Hello, I know this is a documented limitation. However: 1. It works fine with a Macbook Pro (both intel and m3) 2. It is pretty irritating In my car I there are usb ports for charging phones etc. A macbook pro can be charged on these usb ports - not fast, but they charge. As long as you do light work you can work forever on a macbook pro m3, including watching movies. You can also use a samsung phone fast charger (2a) to _slowly_ charge your mac. If I try the same with my framework laptop 13 (amd 7840U) then the charging led comes on for second and then turns off again. It totally refuses to charge. Other than that I love my framework laptop. ---
**Author:** ![MJ1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/mj1/32/15519_2.png) [@MJ1](https://community.frame.work/u/MJ1)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 2:02am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/solved-cannot-charge-framework-13-on-2a-phone-charger-or-car-usb-port/75127/2 "2025-09-11T02:02:56Z")
Welcome to the forum. These are usb ports built into the car? USB-A, USB-C, USB PD (Power Delivery), and wattage output? 2A is just current, it doesn’t tell actual power / wattage. ---
**Author:** ![Mathias](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Mathias](https://community.frame.work/u/Mathias)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 6:38am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/solved-cannot-charge-framework-13-on-2a-phone-charger-or-car-usb-port/75127/3 "2025-09-11T06:38:59Z")
long known problem on Framework Laptop 13 AMD 7040, I don’t think we will get this fixed. > [@Framework 13 AMD Ryzen does not charge on low watt charger](https://community.frame.work/t/framework-13-amd-ryzen-does-not-charge-on-low-watt-charger/40127/1): > > I tried charging my framework 13 amd ryzen with a 12 watt charger the first time before installing windows 11 it worked but after installing windows 11 and the drivers the charging does not work anymore when I plug in the cable I see the charge light turn on for 1 second and turn off again first its red and then white this pattern continues when I plug and unplug it but it doesn’t stay on ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_6](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/charlie_6/32/22087_2.png) [@Charlie\_6](https://community.frame.work/u/Charlie_6)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 12:44pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/solved-cannot-charge-framework-13-on-2a-phone-charger-or-car-usb-port/75127/4 "2025-09-12T12:44:49Z")
To charge the FL13 AMD version you’ll need a charger with at least 9V2A ---
**Author:** ![seanyoung](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/seanyoung/32/40884_2.png) [@seanyoung](https://community.frame.work/u/seanyoung)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/solved-cannot-charge-framework-13-on-2a-phone-charger-or-car-usb-port/75127/5 "2025-09-13T21:56:02Z")
Is this fixed in the AI 300 model, or any other model? ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Joachim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/adrian_joachim/32/9949_2.png) [@Adrian\_Joachim](https://community.frame.work/u/Adrian_Joachim)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2025, 7:57am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/solved-cannot-charge-framework-13-on-2a-phone-charger-or-car-usb-port/75127/6 "2025-09-15T07:57:59Z")
> [@seanyoung](#): > > Is this fixed in the AI 300 model, or any other model? The intel ones apparently can, the amd ones are physically also capable of doing it (and you at least used to be able to trick them into doing it) but something in the pd controller refuses to actually activate charging (power capablity is negotiated and the charge controller is being configured but the power mux which is controlled by the pd controller never actually activates the port). Wile it isn’t super useful and actual pd chargers are extremely common these days it is still a shame and I still hold some faint hope this gets fixed at some point. The pd controller firmware is one of the least polished part of the amd fw 13 at this point imo and unfortunately also one that isn’t open source so we are at the mercy of framework to maybe get around to fixing it. The good part is that the ai300 mainboard and the 7x40u ones have pretty much exactly the same hardware as far as pd goes (except that the ai ones use a different re-driver) so it is likely we could benefit from any future fixes. even the 16 uses mostly the same setup (same charge controller, though wired a bit differently and same pd controller) but it has a different way of doing power muxing so likely also significantly more different pd-controller firmware. I do wish they’d put a few more resources onto polishing the firmware side as that makes a pretty big difference on the perceived quality side. ---
**Author:** ![seanyoung](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/seanyoung/32/40884_2.png) [@seanyoung](https://community.frame.work/u/seanyoung)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/solved-cannot-charge-framework-13-on-2a-phone-charger-or-car-usb-port/75127/7 "2025-09-15T20:29:57Z")
Thank you very much, that is very useful. When you say re-driver do you mean a reverse engineered driver/firmware? ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Joachim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/adrian_joachim/32/9949_2.png) [@Adrian\_Joachim](https://community.frame.work/u/Adrian_Joachim)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/solved-cannot-charge-framework-13-on-2a-phone-charger-or-car-usb-port/75127/8 "2025-09-15T20:43:38Z")
> [@seanyoung](#): > > When you say re-driver do you mean a reverse engineered driver/firmware? No the redrivers for the usb4, that’s a physical component on the board. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/framework3/original/1X/64c81a89f963ddb07633887baceb642a4b056046.png) [@system](https://community.frame.work/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/solved-cannot-charge-framework-13-on-2a-phone-charger-or-car-usb-port/75127/9 "2025-09-17T20:44:13Z")
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