# Too little thermal paste on third batch laptop **URL:** \ **Category:** Framework Laptop 13\ **Created:** [April 27, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/too-little-thermal-paste-on-third-batch-laptop/30094 "2023-04-27T20:39:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sushi\_Kitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Sushi\_Kitty](https://community.frame.work/u/Sushi_Kitty)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/too-little-thermal-paste-on-third-batch-laptop/30094/1 "2023-04-27T20:39:02Z")
I had gotten a framework laptop from the third batch as a DIY but had recieved it fully assembled, I didn’t mind but now I think I should have asked about this, the thermals were never as good as I had expected from the specs on the website but I figured it was all just some software or firmware problems, it was never enough I couldn’t do what I wanted to so i paid it very little mind until my heat sink started sounding closer to a jet engine. Just today I replaced the heat sink thinking it was a bearing that had worn out faster than the others but I take off the original to find that there was bearly any thermal paste on my cpu or gpu (image bellow). I’m not overly upset about this but anyone else running into poor thermal performance consider checking if the thermal paste or pads are appropriate amounts, I haven’t had a single problem with the new pads or heat sink and my computer is whisper quiet now. ![cpu thermal paste](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/framework3/original/2X/5/5ea0bf06dd0f2f024d1e14ddf223ab960fe6d4fc.jpeg) ![heat sink thermal paste](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/framework3/original/2X/7/7cdda6e5a57511d73d37e9e1bb49c1c03f389135.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nich\_Trimble](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/nich_trimble/32/1128_2.png) [@Nich\_Trimble](https://community.frame.work/u/Nich_Trimble)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/too-little-thermal-paste-on-third-batch-laptop/30094/2 "2023-04-27T20:45:49Z")
I remember that the formation of thermal paste used on early units suffered from pump-out, where heat cycling in the silicon would dry out the space between the dies and the cooler. Seems like that may have happened to you. ---
**Author:** ![Second\_Coming](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/second_coming/32/29330_2.png) [@Second\_Coming](https://community.frame.work/u/Second_Coming)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/too-little-thermal-paste-on-third-batch-laptop/30094/3 "2023-04-28T04:21:44Z")
PTM7950 FTW. > [@\[Honeywell PTM7950 Phase Change Thermal Pads/Sheets\] Application, Tips, and Results](http://community.frame.work/t/honeywell-ptm7950-phase-change-thermal-pads-sheets-application-tips-and-results/20245): > > Hey y’all man_dancing So I bought the Honeywell PTM7950 Phase Change Thermal Pads/Sheets (from both [ebuy7](https://www.ebuy7.com/item/674487269645) and [aliexpress](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804189215667.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.1e471802vYok3k)) and it took 2 weeks to arrive from China. I’m not sure if I can post the link, so I’ll post it as a thread reply if someone asks. Mods please delete/let me know if necessary! EDIT I added links, and it seems that I received different products from aliexpress vs. ebuy7. The write-up below is for the aliexpress link which is 0.2mm. I just took the ebuy7 package from my mai… ---
**Author:** ![Sushi\_Kitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Sushi\_Kitty](https://community.frame.work/u/Sushi_Kitty)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 5:37am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/too-little-thermal-paste-on-third-batch-laptop/30094/4 "2023-04-28T05:37:49Z")
I’m not going to lie if I’m going to get third party thermal compound I’ll just use a paste, thermal pads are way more expensive. Also seems like a reasonable assumption with the smaller footprint than the amount of paste makes sense for on the die itself, thanks for the information! ---
**Author:** ![RedAuburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/redauburn/32/15659_2.png) [@RedAuburn](https://community.frame.work/u/RedAuburn)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/too-little-thermal-paste-on-third-batch-laptop/30094/5 "2023-07-01T14:12:13Z")
oooh, i also have a 3rd batch & seem to be having similar heat issues. i’ll check and post a picture as soon as new thermal paste arrives ---
**Author:** ![RedAuburn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/redauburn/32/15659_2.png) [@RedAuburn](https://community.frame.work/u/RedAuburn)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/too-little-thermal-paste-on-third-batch-laptop/30094/6 "2023-07-04T19:22:39Z")
Update: looks like it wasn’t actually an issue for me: ![image140](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/framework3/original/3X/3/e/3e8e855180ca566f7284a4307e9ec569dd4e589c.jpeg) replaced it with SYY-157 paste & it runs about 10℃ cooler though 😄 (not properly measured) ---
**Author:** ![Jason\_Dagless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@Jason\_Dagless](https://community.frame.work/u/Jason_Dagless)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/too-little-thermal-paste-on-third-batch-laptop/30094/7 "2023-07-04T21:45:39Z")
As mentioned, just get the PTM7950 and marvel at the double digit temp drop. Game over.