# \[TRACKING\] USB-A Expansion Card stops working until unplugged **URL:** \ **Category:** Framework Laptop 13\ **Created:** [January 23, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579 "2023-01-23T19:11:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rcm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@rcm](https://community.frame.work/u/rcm)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/1 "2023-01-23T19:11:54Z")
12gen Framework (3rd batch i7-1280p). Today I noticed that USB 3-3 (bottom right when viewed from above) wasn’t working. Only until I unplugged and reinserted the card did it start to work. After some time, I tried again and it wasn’t working again. Again, after unplugging and reinserting the card did it start to work. The same behavior is observed while sitting in the BIOS. I tried a different USB-A expansion card in the same slot, and the problem seems to be unique to the slot, not the card itself. ---
**Author:** ![anarcat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/anarcat/32/11774_2.png) [@anarcat](https://community.frame.work/u/anarcat)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/2 "2023-01-23T21:53:49Z")
Hey, I have the same problem! I thought I was going nuts or that the USB key (my yubikey!) was going bad, but I have the exact same situation. Are you running TLP or power savings tuning by any chance? It could also be a regression from the 3.06 upgrade… see [12th Gen Intel Core BIOS 3.06 Beta](http://community.frame.work/t/12th-gen-intel-core-bios-3-06-beta/25726) where i’ll post a followup comment linking here… Update: actually, that post explicitely mentions this problem, and a workaround > [@12th Gen Intel Core BIOS 3.06 Beta](http://community.frame.work/t/12th-gen-intel-core-bios-3-06-beta/25726/1): > > **Note: One user has experienced that after updating some type-c ports will not function in DP alt mode, If you experience this please report to the forum and power off your laptop, remove AC, wait 2 minutes and power on again.** So I guess I’ll try that next! ---
**Author:** ![anarcat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/anarcat/32/11774_2.png) [@anarcat](https://community.frame.work/u/anarcat)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 1:50am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/3 "2023-01-27T01:50:12Z")
> [@12th Gen Intel Core BIOS 3.06 Beta](http://community.frame.work/t/12th-gen-intel-core-bios-3-06-beta/25726/1): > > **Note: One user has experienced that after updating some type-c ports will not function in DP alt mode, If you experience this please report to the forum and power off your laptop, remove AC, wait 2 minutes and power on again.** So I have just tried two things: 1. a reboot 2. turning off the laptop for two minutes I naively thought a reboot would be enough but no, the above is correct and you need an actual full two minutes off to have the USB-A device return to life. It is not really a workaround: it’s much simpler to just remove and re-insert the expansion cards (and that works reliably)… ---
**Author:** ![anarcat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/anarcat/32/11774_2.png) [@anarcat](https://community.frame.work/u/anarcat)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 1:56am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/4 "2023-01-27T01:56:25Z")
> [@rcm](#): > > bottom right when viewed from above also, I suspect that does not matter at all: i’ve witness the problem on the top and bottom _left_ of the laptop, and I suspect it would similarly happen on the right side as well. I reported the issue as well in [12th Gen Intel Core BIOS 3.06 Beta - #68 by anarcat](http://community.frame.work/t/12th-gen-intel-core-bios-3-06-beta/25726/68). ---
**Author:** ![rcm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@rcm](https://community.frame.work/u/rcm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/5 "2023-01-28T03:22:10Z")
Ah yeah it doesn’t matter, both sides behave the same actually. ---
**Author:** ![anarcat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/anarcat/32/11774_2.png) [@anarcat](https://community.frame.work/u/anarcat)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/6 "2023-02-19T15:02:50Z")
@Matt_Hartley is this BIOS 3.06 regression on your radar? I mentioned it in the 3.06 beta thread but i suspect it was lost in the noise… It’s quite a regression, and the workaround (unplugging the USB-A card and plugging it back in) works, but it’s quite annoying… ---
**Author:** ![Matt\_Hartley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/matt_hartley/32/13623_2.png) [@Matt\_Hartley](https://community.frame.work/u/Matt_Hartley)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/7 "2023-02-19T16:02:15Z")
We sure TLP is not installed? It will produce this behavior unless the right setting is blacklist or changed. Went through it with my USB devices. Fixed it pretty quickly. Let me know. Setting aside the behavior in BIOS for a minute as that would be another team. ---
**Author:** ![rcm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@rcm](https://community.frame.work/u/rcm)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/8 "2023-02-21T16:45:10Z")
TLP is not installed. ---
**Author:** ![brn\_castro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecb155/32.png) [@brn\_castro](https://community.frame.work/u/brn_castro)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/9 "2023-02-21T17:36:40Z")
Same here, I don’t have TLP installed. ---
**Author:** ![anarcat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/anarcat/32/11774_2.png) [@anarcat](https://community.frame.work/u/anarcat)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/10 "2023-02-22T17:03:02Z")
> [@Matt\_Hartley](#): > > We sure TLP is not installed? It will produce this behavior unless the right setting is blacklist or changed. Went through it with my USB devices. Fixed it pretty quickly. Let me know. TLP is definitely installed here, I wasn’t aware that an extra hack was required after the upgraed, what is it? ---
**Author:** ![Matt\_Hartley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/matt_hartley/32/13623_2.png) [@Matt\_Hartley](https://community.frame.work/u/Matt_Hartley)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/11 "2023-02-22T19:10:31Z")
For those who do not have TLP installed, please try different expansion slots and some A/B testing with the installed distro vs a Live distro. It’s annoying, but it provides to environments from which to test from. @anarcat For TLP, I’ve used this setting successfully with some devices. Not using with USB-C expansion myself, but am using for DP and HDMI. ![TL_Denylist](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/framework3/original/2X/9/964d2f607f8a5ae506871bf491a953bac98177cc.png) Took the screenshot using TLPUI since it is more visual than TLP’s config. I’d locate the USB ID and exclude it from TLP’s USB suspending. Worth a shot to see if this helps. Then reboot. ---
**Author:** ![anarcat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/anarcat/32/11774_2.png) [@anarcat](https://community.frame.work/u/anarcat)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/12 "2023-02-24T18:53:38Z")
thanks @Matt_Hartley ! as it turns out, using another USB-C port seems to have fixed the issue… And anyways, I have switched to a dock now, so the issue is less pressing (or, rather, changed radically), see: > [@\[SOLVED\] USB C Dock question](http://community.frame.work/t/usb-c-dock-question/27413/13): > > I just got a [Cable Matters](https://www.cablematters.com/) hub: That promises “Linux” support and checked all the boxes for me (4x USB-A, audio, network, 2xHDMI). It … kind of works? I tested the USB-A ports, charging, networking, and the HDMI ports, all worked the first time. But! When I disconnect and reconnect the hub, the HDMI ports stop working. It’s quite infuriating especially since there’s very little diagnostics available. It’s unclear how the devices show up on my computer, I can’t even tell what device provides … ---
**Author:** ![Matt\_Hartley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/matt_hartley/32/13623_2.png) [@Matt\_Hartley](https://community.frame.work/u/Matt_Hartley)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/13 "2023-03-02T18:36:01Z")
> [@anarcat](#): > > thanks @Matt_Hartley ! as it turns out, using another USB-C port seems to have fixed the issue… And anyways, I have switched to a dock now, so the issue is less pressing (or, rather, changed radically), see: Doing some catching up, thanks for the heads up. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![anarcat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/anarcat/32/11774_2.png) [@anarcat](https://community.frame.work/u/anarcat)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/14 "2023-08-16T14:04:04Z")
> [@anarcat](#): > > that the USB key (my yubikey!) was going bad For what it’s worth, I have since then [replaced my YubiKey](https://anarc.at/blog/2023-08-09-openpgp-key-transition/) and the problem doesn’t seem to occur anymore. To anyone else having such issues, make sure you can’t reproduce the problem on another computer first! I haven’t actually tried _that_, but it does look like the newer YubiKey doesn’t suffer from those issues… ---
**Author:** ![Matt\_Hartley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/matt_hartley/32/13623_2.png) [@Matt\_Hartley](https://community.frame.work/u/Matt_Hartley)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/15 "2023-08-21T18:50:04Z")
Glad this was solved with a new YubiKey. ---
**Author:** ![Stephen\_Grose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/stephen_grose/32/39987_2.png) [@Stephen\_Grose](https://community.frame.work/u/Stephen_Grose)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 3:35am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/16 "2024-05-08T03:35:27Z")
Hi, Framework 16, Batch 4. My USB A also stopped working and the easiest fix was to remove and re-insert it. I am kind of sad how many issues are occurring with the framework. It is much more involved to use and care for this brand than I anticipated. You’d think proprietary hardware would work much better and after so long. ---
**Author:** ![Archgeek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/archgeek/32/26154_2.png) [@Archgeek](https://community.frame.work/u/Archgeek)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 5:30am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/17 "2024-05-26T05:30:28Z")
I’ve a Framework 16 myself, batch 14 - and this happens to me almost daily. I’ve got USB A cards in slots 4 and 5 into which I plug the two plugs of an Alienware 410k keyboard, passing through an old dell laser mouse on the data plug. I frequently switch those two to a work machine for about 9 hours a day, then plug them back into the Framework only to find that one of the two is unresponsive - won’t even read a flash drive - until I flip the latch, pull out the card, and shove it back in. I do hope some patch is coming down the pipe to stop this behaviour. ---
**Author:** ![maksym\_x](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/maksym_x/32/24598_2.png) [@maksym\_x](https://community.frame.work/u/maksym_x)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/18 "2024-07-07T12:33:36Z")
> [@anarcat](#): > > suffer from those issues… I have a 13 AMD - got the same issue. Happens on Windows 11. And also got some error about “port reset failed” ---
**Author:** ![pinpox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/848f3c/32.png) [@pinpox](https://community.frame.work/u/pinpox)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/19 "2025-05-03T21:14:24Z")
Having the same issue on the new AMD AI300 series 13". Was there a solution found? ---
**Author:** ![cweiske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/cweiske/32/38731_2.png) [@cweiske](https://community.frame.work/u/cweiske)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579/20 "2025-08-20T16:08:56Z")
I experience this issue on a Framework 13 with AMD Ryzen AI processor, running Debian 13. No TLP installed. Front right USB slot with USB-A adapter/expansion card. Unplugging and re-inserting it 3x helped. dmesg showed: ```auto [1988965.089514] ucsi_acpi USBC000:00: unknown error 256 [1988992.514003] ucsi_acpi USBC000:00: unknown error 256 [1989002.946479] ucsi_acpi USBC000:00: unknown error 0 ``` [Next page](https://community.frame.work/t/tracking-usb-a-expansion-card-stops-working-until-unplugged/26579.md?page=2)