# Unhide advanced BIOS (UEFI) settings **URL:** \ **Category:** Framework Laptop 13\ **Tags:** feature-requests\ **Created:** [November 14, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001 "2021-11-14T20:44:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BlueBird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/bluebird/32/4880_2.png) [@BlueBird](https://community.frame.work/u/BlueBird)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/1 "2021-11-14T20:44:06Z")
The BIOS (UEFI) menu seems quite locked down in terms of what settings are exposed to the user (cf. [BIOS Guide](http://community.frame.work/t/bios-guide/4178)). While this is on par with most devices by other manufacturers, since the Framework Laptop is targeted towards advanced users, it’d be great if the menu forms included more settings to play with, such as for example the ability to set custom or XMP [memory timings](http://community.frame.work/t/xmp-profile-support-for-ram/4860/7). These settings are apparently already included in Framework’s BIOS setup implementation, so it’s simply a question of flipping a switch just to show them to (i.e. not hide them from) the user. Allowing this is unlikely to require significant workload on Framework’s part. As these perhaps shouldn’t be shown by default so as not to intimidate casual users and avoid unnecessary customer support workload, there are a number ways this could be implemented on an opt-in basis: - a “secret” key combination to be pressed from within the BIOS setup (one vendor uses `Ctrl-Alt-Shift-F7` for this purpose) - an alternate BIOS file to be flashed instead of the regular one - a flag to be toggled with _H2OUVE_ (_Insyde H2O UEFI Variable Editor_, a command-line utility) To see for yourself what options are already available, just hidden, in the laptop’s BIOS, you can ~~download a dump of the internal forms representation (IFR) within the _SetupUtility_ attached to this post~~ (edit: as a new user I’m apparently not allowed to add attachments) or, if you prefer to start from the source: 1. Download: [https://downloads.frame.work/bios/Framework\_Laptop\_BIOS\_3.06.exe](https://downloads.frame.work/bios/Framework_Laptop_BIOS_3.06.exe) 2. Extract the file `isflash.bin` from within the executable archive. 3. Download _UEFI Tool_: [https://github.com/LongSoft/UEFITool/releases](https://github.com/LongSoft/UEFITool/releases) 4. Run, open `isflash.bin`, search for GUID: `FE3542FE-C1D3-4EF8-657C-8048606FF670` (_SetupUtility_), right-click on it, and extract the file as, say, `SetupUtility.efi`. 5. Download _Universal IFR Extractor_: [https://github.com/LongSoft/Universal-IFR-Extractor/releases](https://github.com/LongSoft/Universal-IFR-Extractor/releases) 6. Run, open the extracted file, save as `SetupUtility_IFR.txt`, and see for yourself what’s in it. Would be great to be able to access this menu and all the other settings, for those who would want it, of course: ```auto Form Sets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Offset: Title: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0xA17C4 Power_Hidden (0x1A6E from string package 0x0) 0xA2A74 Advanced (0x1A8C from string package 0x0) 0xB5CA4 Advanced_Hidden (0x1A6D from string package 0x0) 0xE1954 Security (0x30 from string package 0x4) 0xF1B54 Main_Hidden (0x123 from string package 0x4) 0xF2D94 Boot (0x50 from string package 0x4) 0xF43F4 Boot_Hidden (0x124 from string package 0x4) 0xF5EB4 Security (0x30 from string package 0x4) 0xF7824 Main (0x5 from string package 0x4) 0xF8AB4 Exit (0x94 from string package 0x4) ``` For example, the memory timing settings: ```auto Form: Memory Overclocking Menu, FormId: 0x101C {01 86 1C 10 49 11} Suppress If {0A 82} QuestionId: 0x5B4 equals value 0x4 {12 06 B4 05 04 00} Text: Statement.Prompt: Memory Profile:, TextTwo: Default Custom XMP1 XMP2 {03 08 4A 11 5F 05 4B 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tCK [MHz], TextTwo: 0000000 0000000 0000000 0000000 {03 08 4C 11 5F 05 4D 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tCL, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 4E 11 5F 05 4F 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tRCD/tRP, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 50 11 5F 05 51 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tRAS, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 52 11 5F 05 53 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tCWL, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 54 11 5F 05 55 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tFAW, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 56 11 5F 05 57 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tREFI, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 58 11 5F 05 59 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tRFC, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 5A 11 5F 05 5B 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tRRD, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 5C 11 5F 05 5D 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tRTP, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 5E 11 5F 05 5F 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tWR, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 60 11 5F 05 61 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: tWTR, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 62 11 5F 05 63 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: NMode, TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 64 11 5F 05 65 11} Text: Statement.Prompt: VDD [mV], TextTwo: 00000 00000 00000 00000 {03 08 66 11 5F 05 67 11} Subtitle: Statement.Prompt: , Flags: 0x0 {02 87 02 00 00 00 00} End {29 02} One Of: Dynamic Memory Timings, VarStoreInfo (VarOffset/VarName): 0x427, VarStore: 0x2, QuestionId: 0xA1, Size: 1, Min: 0x0, Max 0x1, Step: 0x0 {05 91 68 11 69 11 A1 00 02 00 27 04 10 10 00 01 00} One Of Option: Disabled, Value (8 bit): 0x0 (default) {09 07 04 00 30 00 00} One Of Option: Enabled, Value (8 bit): 0x1 {09 07 03 00 00 00 01} End One Of {29 02} One Of: Memory profile, VarStoreInfo (VarOffset/VarName): 0x13B, VarStore: 0x2, QuestionId: 0x112B, Size: 1, Min: 0x0, Max 0x3, Step: 0x0 {05 91 6A 11 6B 11 2B 11 02 00 3B 01 14 10 00 03 00} One Of Option: Default profile, Value (8 bit): 0x0 (default) {09 07 6C 11 30 00 00} One Of Option: Custom profile, Value (8 bit): 0x1 {09 07 6F 11 00 00 01} Suppress If {0A 82} QuestionId: 0x5B6 equals value 0x0 {12 06 B6 05 00 00} One Of Option: XMP profile 1, Value (8 bit): 0x2 {09 07 6D 11 00 00 02} One Of Option: XMP profile 2, Value (8 bit): 0x3 {09 07 6E 11 00 00 03} End If {29 02} End One Of {29 02} ``` ---
**Author:** ![Chiraag\_Nataraj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/97f17d/32.png) [@Chiraag\_Nataraj](https://community.frame.work/u/Chiraag_Nataraj)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/2 "2021-11-14T21:46:27Z")
> [@BlueBird](#): > > As these perhaps shouldn’t be shown by default so as not to intimidate casual users and avoid unnecessary customer support workload, there are a number ways this could be implemented on an opt-in basis: The ASUS motherboard I have implements this by showing the easy settings by default and switching to advanced mode by pressing F7. I don’t think there’s any need for the key combo to be hidden if there are enough disclaimers (e.g. in the BIOS itself or in the guides). ---
**Author:** ![Righttorepair\_Enthoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@Righttorepair\_Enthoo](https://community.frame.work/u/Righttorepair_Enthoo)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 10:10am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/3 "2022-02-17T10:10:28Z")
> [@Chiraag\_Nataraj](#): > > I don’t think there’s any need for the key combo to be hidden if there are enough disclaimers My thoughts EXACTLY. There should be disclaimers in both the BIOS and in manuals/ guides imo. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a698b9/32.png) [@Ben\_R](https://community.frame.work/u/Ben_R)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/4 "2022-02-25T16:30:18Z")
I think more control over my hardware is always a good thing. I want fan control in the BIOS. They always kick in when I would rather lose some FPS instead of standing in a wind tunnel. But I would like to add: How about providing useful info in the BIOS? One specific option, CPU Flex Ratio… The info provided… And googling… I had no idea what this actually does. I do now; after a few chats on the Discord, but that could’ve easily been resolved by adding two more lines of text in the BIOS. I guess I expected the BIOS to have more options and built in guides, by virtue of being repairable? :: shrug :: ---
**Author:** ![shark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/73ab20/32.png) [@shark](https://community.frame.work/u/shark)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/5 "2022-03-01T17:24:35Z")
> [@Ben\_R](#): > > I want fan control in the BIOS. They always kick in when I would rather lose some FPS instead of standing in a wind tunnel. If you’re on linux, you can use ectool [The Framework Laptop's Embedded Controller (EC) :: HowettNET](https://www.howett.net/posts/2021-12-framework-ec/#using-fw-ectool) to set custom fan speeds, from there you could pretty write a script that effectively creates a custom fan curve. As for windows, the ectool there isn’t quite as far along, [Releases · DHowett/FrameworkWindowsUtils · GitHub](https://github.com/DHowett/FrameworkWindowsUtils/releases) , but with some work it could still be done. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a698b9/32.png) [@Ben\_R](https://community.frame.work/u/Ben_R)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/6 "2022-03-07T19:13:32Z")
Awesome! I’ll check that out later. 👍😁 Edit: checked it out. Think this is a bit over my head at this time 😥 I feel like I walked into the middle of a conversation; not sure what is even being suggested in the directions. I’ll check back in that project periodically; maybe it’ll be easier to follow in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Hei\_kun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7c8e57/32.png) [@Hei\_kun](https://community.frame.work/u/Hei_kun)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2023, 3:34am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/7 "2023-03-25T03:34:38Z")
I’m bumping this as I’d _greatly_ like to see memory tuning options in the upcoming Framework 16 that’ll have dGPU options. Good memory tuning can always uplift performance quite a bit regardless if you’re on a Intel or AMD CPU (lot of people seem to think memory tuning is good for AMD CPUs only). This is especially true in laptops where the default secondary/ternary timings are more loose then what one would find on a desktop. Even some primaries arent that great for SODIMM. There are some laptops that allow for memory tuning. I know MSI is one of them for a decent bit if not all of their modern gaming laptops. Having actual control over my hardware is the last step I need from Framework to be able to say I actually own my hardware. Without actual control over my hardware I cant say with 100% confidence I actually own it as well as the fact I also generally lose performance due to lack of the ability to tune it. ---
**Author:** ![Surja\_Knap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@Surja\_Knap](https://community.frame.work/u/Surja_Knap)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/8 "2023-06-13T10:58:37Z")
Also bumping this, because I feel like it´s kinda a shame that in such an open-source laptop already in its 3rd generation, we cannot adjust TDP/turbo limits (not even with throttlestop), create custom fan curves in Windows (half of the people complain about fan kicking in too much, half about not enough), fiddle with memory timings and all sorts of stuff that could be easily enabled by FW team. ---
**Author:** ![Seneral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/seneral/32/17351_2.png) [@Seneral](https://community.frame.work/u/Seneral)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/9 "2023-08-16T00:22:06Z")
> [@Surja\_Knap](#): > > we cannot adjust TDP/turbo limits (not even with throttlestop), create custom fan curves in Windows (half of the people complain about fan kicking in too much, half about not enough), fiddle with memory timings That is pretty unfortunate tbh. For the FW16 specifically, which has the option for a 7940HS for 230€ extra, whose main point is advanced configuration (e.g. undervolting with curve optimizer voltage offsets). Adjusting TDP, fan curves and memory timings just go hand in hand with that, to either maximise performance or runtime. Without all this exposed, that option is not worth the extra you pay for the 7940HS. With all these options, perhaps it is worth it. ---
**Author:** ![J.C\_Lundberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/j.c_lundberg/32/6033_2.png) [@J.C\_Lundberg](https://community.frame.work/u/J.C_Lundberg)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/10 "2023-09-18T13:30:05Z")
Would this fix the issue with an external keyboard (through a dock?) not being able to wake the machine? The troubleshooting stuff I found trying to work through this kept telling me to enable “wake from USB” in the BIOS but we don’t have that option with the BIOS as issued. Other thread on this from a while back: [Feature Request: Wake from USB support in BIOS](http://community.frame.work/t/feature-request-wake-from-usb-support-in-bios/14096) ---
**Author:** ![L0wPull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@L0wPull](https://community.frame.work/u/L0wPull)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/11 "2023-10-10T16:12:12Z")
I just paid my deposit and ordered a 13” 7640 for Q4 delivery. I was about to go order my own ram etc and thought I’d better check what I can squeeze. I will be mighty _disappointed_ if I can’t throw in some 6000 (or better, Adie 6400c38) and at least tighten down timings to 5600c30 if not faster. Not exposing ram timings is server-grade castration, not worthy of a “DIY”-friendly device. If these (yes, and PBO, fan curve etc) options are not enabled please do so, or confirm it’s in the works, as I won’t complete the order without knowing I can optimise my system. I’m prepared to put up with the junk screen for now until you can find some help out of the corner you painted yourselves into with 3:2 AR, but locking down the bios is intolerable and unnecessary cruelty I won’t put myself through…. ---
**Author:** ![Elxer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f04885/32.png) [@Elxer](https://community.frame.work/u/Elxer)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/12 "2023-10-10T16:30:50Z")
This thread is genuinely worrying from the perspective of a pc hardware enthusiast who currently has a FW16 as their first framework system on pre-order. This very much could do with some official response detailing why locking the BIOS down and perhaps what is in the pipeline to put more control in the users hands which I feel is a big part of the appeal to these systems. ---
**Author:** ![William\_Prochazka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ad7895/32.png) [@William\_Prochazka](https://community.frame.work/u/William_Prochazka)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/14 "2024-05-23T22:12:24Z")
Please, please, please! I assumed when I bought the laptop that the bios was less kiddie mode. Super disappointed. I’ve actually steered colleagues towards other laptops with more accessible bioses. ---
**Author:** ![Tech\_Kai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@Tech\_Kai](https://community.frame.work/u/Tech_Kai)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/15 "2024-10-05T22:15:28Z")
Day 1 of asking for more advanced bios features to be unlocked… ---
**Author:** ![Guest121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac8455/32.png) [@Guest121](https://community.frame.work/u/Guest121)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:46am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/16 "2025-02-13T04:46:36Z")
+1 for proper access to the BIOS please. I can undervolt and overclock my handheld Steam Deck’s AMD APU, but I can’t do the same on my laptop. ---
**Author:** ![Dylanger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/dylanger/32/47541_2.png) [@Dylanger](https://community.frame.work/u/Dylanger)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 10:36pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/17 "2025-04-16T22:36:26Z")
Oh, I was just about to order a Framework 13 and saw this thread. I don’t just expect advanced settings, I expect to be able to compile and sign my own UEFI Firmware myself, change the boot logo etc, I expected this was already the case. Usually OEMs blow some sort of hash of a cert they control to sign UEFI firmware, I’m really hoping either Framework haven’t blown those fuses, or will publish the private key. The EC seems to be open source but the public repo seems to be unmaintained? ---
**Author:** ![DHowett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/dhowett/32/1990_2.png) [@DHowett](https://community.frame.work/u/DHowett)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2025, 3:25am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/18 "2025-04-17T03:25:14Z")
> [@Dylanger](#): > > The EC seems to be open source but the public repo seems to be unmaintained? It doesn’t seem unmaintained to me! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/framework3/original/3X/2/d/2dcfeb6a44064a2c3a454131c592ec4796819819.png) _taken on 2025-04-16 at 22:24 Central Daylight Time_ ---
**Author:** ![Dylanger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/dylanger/32/47541_2.png) [@Dylanger](https://community.frame.work/u/Dylanger)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/19 "2025-04-17T20:22:15Z")
Ah my bad, I didn’t see build-able instructions for the Framework 13" AMD for example and assumed. Sorry about that. Do you know if Framework have blown any hashes into the CPU/preformed one-way personalization of the CPU? Iirc Intel called this Boot Guard. If not I should be able to make binary changes to the UEFI Firmware. ---
**Author:** ![Guest121](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac8455/32.png) [@Guest121](https://community.frame.work/u/Guest121)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 4:09am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/20 "2025-05-13T04:09:02Z")
[@Framework](https://community.frame.work/groups/framework) , any plans to open up some of the (low risk) blocked BIOS settings? ---
**Author:** ![Graziv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a4c791/32.png) [@Graziv](https://community.frame.work/u/Graziv)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2025, 11:01am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001/21 "2025-07-14T11:01:50Z")
I don’t think they enabled that for the AMD laptops but couldn’t you try and if it fails you reflash the UEFI? I assume you’d use an external programmer anyway? [Next page](https://community.frame.work/t/unhide-advanced-bios-uefi-settings/11001.md?page=2)