Not sure about sd cards but the 13 does that with usb boot if the internal drive has no bootloader.
If the boot-loader on the internal drive is present but borked that doesn’t work though.
Not sure about sd cards but the 13 does that with usb boot if the internal drive has no bootloader.
If the boot-loader on the internal drive is present but borked that doesn’t work though.
Its pretty rough, but i hope this helps somewhat:
to get into the BIOS in the first place you have to spam “F2” when booting. I have tried it a few times and it always took about 7 seconds from pressing the power button to entering the BIOS.
Get into BIOS:
completelly turn off Laptop – press Power Button – spam “F2” for about 8 seconds
Your are now in the Main Overview, here you have 3 options in the first row “Continue Boot”, “Boot Manager”, “Boot from File” and 2 options in the second row “Administer Secure Boot”, “Setup Utility”
When first entering this main overview your cursor is on “Continue Boot”. To select “Boot Manager” press right arrow key once. or “Boot from File” press right arrow key twice.
To get into the second row just press down arrow key once, that means to get to the “setup Utility” you have to press the arrow keys down and right each one time.
To get into the selected menue just press “Enter”.
To reset the BIOS to the default settings enter the “Setup Utility” from the Main Overview, then:
4 down, 1 right, 3 down, Enter, Enter
With that the Laptop should reboot into default settings.
After entering “Boot Manager” from the Main Overview you can select the boot media with up and down arrow keys, but i have not tried that yet, as i do not have a usb stick or sd card with me right now.
I have not found a setting to turn of special keys.
For reference, my BIOS version is IFGP6.03.02
EDIT: I’ve just tried reseting the BIOS blind, use the real Enter key, NOT the Numepad Enter key😉
Thank you Felix. That’s brilliant.
Okay… after entering the boot manager and selected the media, how do we save and exit please?
Can anyone give any information about the entries for boot selection, so for example a framework with a micro SD card for booting and either one or two SSDs installed?
Very very many thanks.
The boot manager isn’t something you save and exit, you just pick an option, press enter and it’ll try booting it.
Unfortunately those aren’t really
in a fixed position, depending on what is available and if the os wrote some uefi variables there can be some additional entries on top or not.
What are you booting from microsd?
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The boot manager isn’t something you save and exit, you just pick an option, press enter and it’ll try booting it.
What are you booting from microsd?
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So if you were routinely booting a live boot linux OS for example you can’t just set it to boot from USB or SD card? You have to go through the BIOS boot every time?
I was going to install windows 11 from Micro SD. I wasn’t sure how else I would do it. I need to buy a USB drive? I would have thought an SD or Micro SD card would appear to the system in the same way as any USB device would do.
The boot order where you set that permanently is in a different menu, the boot manager entry there is a temporary override.
Most non integrated microsd readers look like usb drives to the system anyway so that should not be an issue, it’s just oddly speciffic
Also really not a good idea, mSD cards aren’t meant to be written so often and with random I/O like an OS would do. The fact that they’re used that way for RaspberryPi devices is mostly down to cost and form factor. But I really wouldn’t recommend it for Windows.
And I’m very curious, why install to a USB bootable drive? For a troubleshooting bootable image, fix systems, etc, it makes some sense. For the permanent OS of a laptop doesn’t make that much sense to me.
Are you trying to have a bootable image with all your settings and software that you take between machines?
And I’m very curious, why install to a USB bootable drive? For a troubleshooting bootable image, fix systems, etc, it makes some sense. For the permanent OS of a laptop doesn’t make that much sense to me.
He was talking about installing FROM a microsd card not TO one, which is reasonable imo if you just happen to have one laying around.
Ohhh, OK. I’m just up after a long and fun night, my reading comprehension is off this morning.
Thanks for clarifying.
Its pretty rough, but i hope this helps somewhat:
to get into the BIOS in the first place you have to spam “F2” when booting. I have tried it a few times and it always took about 7 seconds from pressing the power button to entering the BIOS.
Get into BIOS:
completelly turn off Laptop – press Power Button – spam “F2” for about 8 secondsYour are now in the Main Overview, here you have 3 options in the first row “Continue Boot”, “Boot Manager”, “Boot from File” and 2 options in the second row “Administer Secure Boot”, “Setup Utility”
When first entering this main overview your cursor is on “Continue Boot”. To select “Boot Manager” press right arrow key once. or “Boot from File” press right arrow key twice.
To get into the second row just press down arrow key once, that means to get to the “setup Utility” you have to press the arrow keys down and right each one time.
To get into the selected menue just press “Enter”.
To reset the BIOS to the default settings enter the “Setup Utility” from the Main Overview, then:
4 down, 1 right, 3 down, Enter, Enter
With that the Laptop should reboot into default settings.After entering “Boot Manager” from the Main Overview you can select the boot media with up and down arrow keys, but i have not tried that yet, as i do not have a usb stick or sd card with me right now.
I have not found a setting to turn of special keys.
For reference, my BIOS version is IFGP6.03.02
EDIT: I’ve just tried reseting the BIOS blind, use the real Enter key, NOT the Numepad Enter key😉
Could I ask where in this procedure the long delay for memory check occurs, the first time the machine is turned on please?
Also are there any useful beeps that occur during the process of entering or exiting BIOS for orientation?
Very many thanks.
Could I ask where in this procedure the long delay for memory check occurs, the first time the machine is turned on please?
Yes, very first time it’s powered up the memory training occurs. This can be shortish, 30-60 seconds, or sometimes it can take several minutes. If it’s more than 10 minutes that’s probably too long, contact support.
Also are there any useful beeps that occur during the process of entering or exiting BIOS for orientation?
Nope, not in my experience, if everything is going properly.
Thank you. Can I ask how many seconds the power button needs to be held down for to turn the machine on and off please?
Thanks.
From powered off, I don’t have an exact, but a firm press for a fraction of a second and release works.
From BIOS a quick press turns it right off.
You should contact support to get the # of seconds if the machine is hard locked. Usually something like 7-10 seconds to force-power off.
EDIT: I actually found it The Framework Laptop's Embedded Controller (EC) :: HowettNET looking at other stuff.
Holding the onboard power button for 10 seconds will force a battery disconnect.
Holding the fingerprint power button for 20 seconds will force an EC chip reset.
From powered off, I don’t have an exact, but a firm press for a fraction of a second and release works.
From BIOS a quick press turns it right off.
You should contact support to get the # of seconds if the machine is hard locked. Usually something like 7-10 seconds to force-power off.
EDIT: I actually found it The Framework Laptop's Embedded Controller (EC) :: HowettNET looking at other stuff.
Holding the onboard power button for 10 seconds will force a battery disconnect.
Holding the fingerprint power button for 20 seconds will force an EC chip reset.
Okay. Thank you. Are there two different on/off buttons then?
I’m a bit confused by that as well, but pretty sure it’s really the same single power button.
Okay. Thank you. Are there two different on/off buttons then?
I’m a bit confused by that as well, but pretty sure it’s really the same single power button.
From reading that it could mean you specifically need to use the power button on the mainboard to do the battery disconnect thing.
Could anyone share the BIOS key strokes in a similar fashion to those described by Felix above to turn on stand-alone mode please in accordance with this advice;
Hi @David_Mellor, He is highlighting two options in the BIOS. They are under advanced, then the 5th option from the top is: Standalone Operation with the option of Disabled (default) or Enabled. The 6th option from the top just below this is: Standalone Detection with the option of Enabled (default) or Disabled. For your purpose I believe you want to set Standalone Operation to Enabled and Standalone Detection to Disabled. This should enable you to boot with the midplate and input modules …
Thank you!
If you’re using Linux for your host OS you can use the “efibootmgr” tool to manipulate the boot order instead of having to go into the bios.
If you’re using Linux for your host OS you can use the “efibootmgr” tool to manipulate the boot order instead of having to go into the bios.
Thank you. The boot order is another issue I’d like to deal with, but the greater priority at present is the stand-alone mode so I can test RAM without rescrewing the midplate first.
I’ll be using windows 11 and running linux from a virtual machine.