What should we build next?

  1. How about a waterproof laptop, or at least one that survives drink spills?
    Much like some mobile phones are waterproof now.
  2. How about a laptop that can survive being dropped off a table top edge
    Use case:
    Laptop on table.
    Me walks away from laptop and accidentally trip over the power cable, thus pulling the laptop onto the floor. ← Survive that!!! :slight_smile:
  3. How about a laptop that can survive being stepped on by a large Labrador dog and not break the screen as a result.

Note: 1-3 is haunting from laptops past. :slight_smile:

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In other words a case built like the old IBM-era thinkpads. I think I’d like that.

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Putting my vote into this:

  1. A tablet that is less than 900g, and total package (that is plus detachable keyboard) less than 1kg
  2. FW13 with 2 nvme drives or with an oculink port (admittedly might be redundant once TB 5 comes out i guess)
  3. A 140W usbc charger with multiple ports and/or a 240W usbc charger
  4. eGPU with the current GPU module
  5. Powerbank with simultaneous one input 2 outputand as close to 100mAH and as little conversion loss as possible
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You can get metal pens like that (except the interchangable parts maybe) only they start at roughly 100 $ (e.g. “Stilform”).
So a more affordable Version from Framework would be great!

The other trouble with disposable pens is, most of them are promotional gifts. But I guess that’s not a problem for Framework to solve …

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a thermomix-like multifunctional cooking-machine:

  1. most are not easily repairable
  2. these machines work with tonns of different accesoires (kneading dough, making smoothies, peeling potatoes, …)
    → with an open ecosystem, different companies could develop additional accesoires,
    or different shells, stronger or quieter motors, …
  3. there are usually readymade programs for specific recipes
    → this could be open source, so people could develop their own programs for recipes and share those online, so other people could load them on their machines.

A more rigid chassis option. Would love to see an Aluminum 7075 / 7068 / or even 8000 series light weight Aluminums. Currently the chassis does feel too flexible. Maybe add more ribbing/ bracing in the chassis & lid design to reduce torsional flex

Imo also Glossy Touch screen option in MiniLED or OLED.

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you could probably get away with an anti moisture coating on the PCB for the mainboard. Like clear nail polish or pcb varnish. It might at minimum make the laptop more resistant to spills and insane humidity.

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2-3 sound like something they could accomplish with a new toughbook-esque chassis. Since the mainboards essentially have all the guts for the computer either included or attached to it, it’d be the same principle as the cooler master case. Just bulkier.

IIRC the tablet thing is more of something that could be accomplished by putting a mainboard in a different chassis. There’s people who’ve already turned their Frameworks into tablets like this. So it’d be simpler than some of the other suggestions- All they need is a compatible touchscreen and a chassis design to pack it all into.
The fw13 mainboard would need serious revision to fit two nvme drives. Not saying it’s impossible, but it’d be tricky and require a lot of R&D for a small company.

I think they should look at new ways to use their current parts and ecosystem.

-An external display kit compatible with the fw13 display, possibly with an integrated fw battery so it doesn’t need to draw power from the connected device, and can use HDMI and Display Port expansion cards to connect to devices

-A kit to turn a framework battery into a power bank

-A dock for the framework13/16 that uses the Expansion cards and/or Expansion bay to provide increased IO. Maybe it can connect to the two rear TB4/USB4 ports for extra bandwidth. You could integrate the GPU module into this design as well, or pick an expansion module shell that gives you more NVMe storage. Whatever works.

They’re still a small company, so while a phone or a printer or a fridge would be great, I’m more interested in laptops and laptop accessories that they could make using parts and ideas already in their ecosystem. Then they can shoot for the big stuff.

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yeah i think once they release upgrades to things they should have circuit boards to convert them into external things, like the panels (should also have one for the fw16 panel if they ever release a new panel for it), and the battery as you said (though thats one i think they should also sell an enclosure for, for safety reasons). another useful one could be the webcam module, so if someone upgrades their webcam, then they can make it into a usb webcam for another device, or having spare keyboards/numpads/led matrix input modules as usb devices (more focused on the numpads/input modules as thats what people are more likely to have loose)

unrelated i think they could make an expansion bay with expansion card slots (though theyd have to work out some mechanism for ejecting the cards) for the fw16, and i was looking inside and i think it might be possible to fit a 2.5" sata ssd in there, which would be a nice alternative to the dual nvme board if theres enough demand

plus id personally like to see more expansion cards with the form factor of the ethernet one, since i feel like part of the complaints for it stem from it being the only one like that. if there were more like it (like multi-port cards, or a m.2 2230/2242 adapter card) i think more people will be on board

basically just easy ways for people to reuse older parts, and new things to go in the existing ecosystem

  1. Improve FW16 USB ports:

The FW16 USB ports currently can output 15W 5V/3A.
The FW16 USB ports currently can input 240W 48V/5A
It would be nice if the USB ports on the FW16 could output 240W also.
Use case: Be able to jump start my car from my FW16! :slight_smile:
In case of emergency, use the FW16 laptop battery to power stuff/tools etc.

  1. Integrate 3G/4G/5G/Satcom antennas so that internet connectivity is still possible without Wifi.

  2. Add a smart card reader, so one can use it for more secure purchasing transactions and MFA (Multi factor authentication).

A modular/repairable headphone/earbud with noise -cancellation? I would love that. (Fairbuds have already shown that it is possible).

i think the usb thing might be a limitation of the usb spec

for 2 and 3 i think there are community projects for those