# Which USB 3.2 Type is used?

**URL:** https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469
**Category:** Framework Laptop 12
**Created:** [April 11, 2025, 8:53am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469 "2025-04-11T08:53:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![djfbtkfa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@djfbtkfa](https://community.frame.work/u/djfbtkfa)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2025, 8:53am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/1 "2025-04-11T08:53:30Z")

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Somehow customer support repeatedly could not tell me which exact type is used. They only tell me  
“As mentioned in our previous email, the USB-C ports support USB 3.2, USB Power Delivery (USB-PD) and DisplayPort Alt Mode.”

This does not anwer whether it is **USB 3.2 Gen 1x1, USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 or USB 3.2 Gen 2x2**?

Can yomeone from Framework tell me what I unknowingly pre-prdered?  
Best regards

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### Author: ![Adrian\_Joachim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/adrian_joachim/32/9949_2.png) [@Adrian\_Joachim](https://community.frame.work/u/Adrian_Joachim)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2025, 9:00am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/2 "2025-04-11T09:00:47Z")

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Most likely 2x1, maybe 2x2 pretty much definitely not gen1 (they’d have to go out of their way to do that).

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### Author: ![Chr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/chr/32/15043_2.png) [@Chr](https://community.frame.work/u/Chr)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2025, 9:33am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/3 "2025-04-11T09:33:26Z")

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The naming sheme was just to easy before:

USB 3.0 → 5 GBit/s  
USB 3.1 → 10 GBit/s  
USB 3.2 → 20 GBit/s

Now:

USB 3.2 Gen 1x1 → 5 GBit/s  
USB 3.2 Gen 2x1-\> 10 GBit/s  
USB 3.2 Gen 2x2-\> 20 GBit/s

So with the old sheme it would be 20 Gbit/s. But like @Adrian_Joachim said it is most likely at least 10 Gbit/s.

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### Author: ![Adrian\_Joachim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/adrian_joachim/32/9949_2.png) [@Adrian\_Joachim](https://community.frame.work/u/Adrian_Joachim)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2025, 9:36am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/4 "2025-04-11T09:36:18Z")

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Usb if, great tech, horrible naming/branding and so flexible that nobody know what it actually does XD

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### Author: ![Charlie\_6](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/charlie_6/32/22087_2.png) [@Charlie\_6](https://community.frame.work/u/Charlie_6)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2025, 10:21am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/5 "2025-04-11T10:21:33Z")

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> [@Adrian\_Joachim](#):
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> Usb if

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The doubt is written

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### Author: ![Tyler\_Wong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Tyler\_Wong](https://community.frame.work/u/Tyler_Wong)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/6 "2025-04-11T22:55:51Z")

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I think it’s because they tried to introduce an alternate USB 10Gbps that afaik would be easier to implement but would be slower (wikipedia says Gen1x2 is 8b/10b encoding vs 128b/132b)

They later canned the standard so… Good on you USB-IF for ruining your tiers for nothing

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### Author: ![nrp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/nrp/32/352_2.png) [@nrp](https://community.frame.work/u/nrp)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2025, 4:28am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/7 "2025-04-12T04:28:10Z")

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USB 3.2 Gen 2x1.

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### Author: ![djfbtkfa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@djfbtkfa](https://community.frame.work/u/djfbtkfa)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2025, 10:02am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/8 "2025-05-14T10:02:57Z")

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Your support told me that the right side of the ports is even better: 3.2 2x2, correct?

> [@What kind of display setup works for the Framework 12 Laptop using a single USB-C connection?](https://community.frame.work/t/what-kind-of-display-setup-works-for-the-framework-12-laptop-using-a-single-usb-c-connection/67581/6):
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> I just got this official answer from the support: I checked internally with our team and have been informed that all ports on the Framework Laptop 12 are DP 1.4 and support charging. The left side ports (1 & 2) are USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 while the right side ports (3 & 4) are USB 3.2 Gen 2x2. We will have more information available closer to launch. I hope you find this information useful. Please let me know if there is anything else you need. So if I choose an Anker 12-in-1 that comes with USB 3.2 a…

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### Author: ![Charlie\_6](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/charlie_6/32/22087_2.png) [@Charlie\_6](https://community.frame.work/u/Charlie_6)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2025, 10:51am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/9 "2025-05-14T10:51:51Z")

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I think due to the sheer confusion caused by inconsistencies of the USB3.? standard, ~~just saying “USB 3.2” isn’t very professional. The marketing names are SuperSpeed or SuperSpeed USB 5Gbps for 5Gbps, SuperSpeed+, SS+ or SuperSpeed USB 10Gbps for 10Gbps and SuperSpeed USB 20Gbps for 20Gbps~~

Edit: it’s [simpler](https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/usb_data_performance_language_usage_guidelines_jan_2024.pdf), USB 80Gbps, USB 40Gbps, USB 20Gbps, USB 10Gbps, USB 5Gbps

Here’s an example

 ![PXL_20250429_071901840](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/framework3/original/3X/8/b/8b93c42bd165f47c631985b3a381b43771652292.jpeg)

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### Author: ![JTrevail](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/jtrevail/32/35824_2.png) [@JTrevail](https://community.frame.work/u/JTrevail)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2025, 11:02am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/10 "2025-05-14T11:02:17Z")

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The fault lies with USB-IF.

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### Author: ![tomasz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dbc845/32.png) [@tomasz](https://community.frame.work/u/tomasz)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2025, 12:45am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/11 "2025-05-18T00:45:22Z")

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Would be great to have even only two of ports with 3.2 2x2.  
I would like to connect the laptop to 4k 120hz monitor. I know that the device has it’s trade-offs and it meant to be cheap but slow USB would be too much for me. In the case when all the ports would be slow, I even considered buying Macbook Air and iPad combo.

Btw, do anyone knows when we can see first reviews? On Batch 0 or could it be sooner? I look almost every day for a review or real-life pics, I was so hyped since when the FW12 was released.

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### Author: ![Kings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/kings/32/36519_2.png) [@Kings](https://community.frame.work/u/Kings)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/12 "2025-05-19T13:08:27Z")

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Real life pics/video:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/framework3/original/3X/1/c/1c8c594fd472493cb77ac08bb06599f7ef7ef0a5.jpeg "We built a non-boring computer: the Framework Laptop 12.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejl-7X74tgc)

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/framework3/original/3X/4/1/4137f9c335d20461b34ef9630e04d86db165cf0b.jpeg "Could a modular repairable laptop look great and be cheap? That's the Framework Laptop 12 goal") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioju4LCT404)

Hope it helps!

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### Author: ![Adrian\_Joachim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/adrian_joachim/32/9949_2.png) [@Adrian\_Joachim](https://community.frame.work/u/Adrian_Joachim)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2025, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/13 "2025-05-19T13:23:10Z")

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Does this mention the actual usb version somewhere or am I missing something?

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### Author: ![Kings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/kings/32/36519_2.png) [@Kings](https://community.frame.work/u/Kings)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2025, 1:26pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/14 "2025-05-19T13:26:27Z")

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Not in the video, but it seems that we have conflicting / confusing answers:

> [@Which USB 3.2 Type is used?](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/7):
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> USB 3.2 Gen 2x1.

> [@What kind of display setup works for the Framework 12 Laptop using a single USB-C connection?](https://community.frame.work/t/what-kind-of-display-setup-works-for-the-framework-12-laptop-using-a-single-usb-c-connection/67581/6):
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> I just got this official answer from the support: I checked internally with our team and have been informed that all ports on the Framework Laptop 12 are DP 1.4 and support charging. The left side ports (1 & 2) are USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 while the right side ports (3 & 4) are USB 3.2 Gen 2x2. We will have more information available closer to launch. I hope you find this information useful. Please let me know if there is anything else you need. So if I choose an Anker 12-in-1 that comes with USB 3.2 a…

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### Author: ![Adrian\_Joachim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/adrian_joachim/32/9949_2.png) [@Adrian\_Joachim](https://community.frame.work/u/Adrian_Joachim)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/15 "2025-05-19T13:30:00Z")

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> [@Kings](#):
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> Not in the video, but it seems that we have conflicting / confusing answers:

Yeah that is kind of what this whole thread is about.

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### Author: ![Kings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/kings/32/36519_2.png) [@Kings](https://community.frame.work/u/Kings)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/16 "2025-05-19T13:31:57Z")

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I post the video for tomasz as he is looking for real life pic… maybe he meant he is looking at them, instead of looking for them. My bad!

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### Author: ![tomasz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dbc845/32.png) [@tomasz](https://community.frame.work/u/tomasz)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/17 "2025-05-19T15:04:37Z")

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Yeah, I already knew it… but thanks!

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### Author: ![yapakipe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/yapakipe/32/38579_2.png) [@yapakipe](https://community.frame.work/u/yapakipe)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2025, 8:00am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/18 "2025-05-28T08:00:28Z")

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FYI: There’s confirmation of the two USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 right-side ports in the newly updated KB: [Expansion Card Functionality on Framework Laptop 12 (13th Gen Intel® Core™)](https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/expansion-card-functionality-on-framework-laptop-12-13th-gen-intel-core-S1UDIAsWel)

 ![framework_laptop_12_expansion_card_slots_2025-05-28](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/uploads/framework3/original/3X/8/8/8838a1699c9e871c8134db182fb28240c728d00d.jpeg)

It also specifies DP 1.4 HBR3 on all 4 slots as far as display output goes.

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### Author: ![Chr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/chr/32/15043_2.png) [@Chr](https://community.frame.work/u/Chr)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2025, 10:49am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/19 "2025-05-28T10:49:00Z")

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This means me and @Adrian_Joachim were right. And @nrp was 50% right and 50% are even faster.

And thank you @yapakipe for the link and picture. The question is solved now!

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### Author: ![Adrian\_Joachim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex001/user_avatar/community.frame.work/adrian_joachim/32/9949_2.png) [@Adrian\_Joachim](https://community.frame.work/u/Adrian_Joachim)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2025, 11:01am UTC](https://community.frame.work/t/which-usb-3-2-type-is-used/67469/20 "2025-05-28T11:01:24Z")

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This makes it even sadder there isn’t a single usb4 port.

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