Alternatively, if you go barebone DIY (no RAM, no storage, no OS, no power adapter, no expansion card):
i5-1240P - $1,079CAD
i7-1260P - $1,459 CAD
i7-1280P - $1,999 CAD
Making an Upgrade Kit vs DIY barebonedelta cost of…respectively:
This is a bit odd…because the rest of the components are the same (bottom chassis, input cover, battery, speakers, etc…)
@Framework, why’s there a second price ladder on the Kit vs DIY delta? The processor choice / price difference should be embedded into the Upgrade Kit cost, or the DIY barebone cost already. Why’s there a second pricing ladder?
The upgrade kits only include the motherboard and CNC top cover, but the barebone is an entirely new laptop with a bottom cover, battery, speakers, etc. Seems reasonable that it’d cost more than the upgrade kit?
The i7 models will likely have significantly less volume of sale than the i5 and Framework will have to cover the cost for this as well as include overhead and profit. The costs are not just in materials, but in design, engineering, support, and R&D.
@ngxson, exactly. At least, one would expect that delta to be constant…because the only component difference between them are the processor, which is embedded into the cost of the mainboard.
At this price point, it seem, to me, to make much more sense to buy a whole barebone DIY unit (and sell the old one). Which got me thinking…the generational upgrade possibility doesn’t make that much sense then.
Sure, but isn’t the profit supposed to be same for the same components grouping?
Component groups, in this case, consists of: Speakers, bottom chassis, LCD panel, input cover…etc.
There’s actual cost to Framework, that we don’t know. Then there’s the purchase price for consumers, that we know. I would have thought that the profit margin, whatever that is set at, would be the ‘same’ for the same component grouping (groupset).
The added cost is in manufacturing a smaller volume of DIY Laptops with i7 chips. The factory will charge a lump sum cost for tooling and creating a run of a particular skew with an added rate for each unit assembled. With a smaller volume the lump sum charge for the manufacturing run will create a larger impact to the cost for each unit.
EX: a $100k lump charge to do a single run of 1,000 laptops is a $100 per unit added cost. the same charge for 800 (20% drop) units is $125 per unit added cost (25% more per unit).
Swapping the board is quick…under 10 minutes. Arranging a sale of the board, local, 20 minutes. I’m ok with that. Plus, when it comes to $140, if it’s gone, it’s gone. Not like I have a business that I can swap my time for the money.
Who knows, maybe I’ll die in a car crash on the way to sell the board, just to save $140.
I discover the same thing today (without finding this post) and wrote to support, asking for a real explanation. I don’t like the idea of paying more. The same thing happens and between just mainboard and DIY edition (paying 110 euro more on DIY with i7-1280P). I’m surprised that is not the other way around, since they sell more DIY edition with i7-1280P than motherboards.
To the i7-1280p on DIY configuration page, there is an additional cost of about 10-15 Euro (or $ since price differences are the same) and that’s the vPRO Wi-Fi, but this still means that they are asking 95-100 Euro with no other reason. Furthermore, there is a price difference between i5-1240p and i7-1260p of 70 Euros (using same method), but there is no vPRO Wi-Fi there.
@nrp Any explication for this price increase of 110 Euro (same cost is and on United States shop and at i7-1260P where it is 70 Euro) between CPU upgrade in DIY (810 Euro for getting i7-1280p instead of i5-1240p) and motherboard CPU upgrade (1189 Euro for i7-1280p - 489 Euro for i5-1240p = 700 Euro) ?
Please don’t solve this issue by increasing the motherboard price, since that shows how much you care about customers. If we don’t factor in the vPRO Wi-Fi, the same thing costs identical to produce.