A call on 240w adapter

I have considered such thing. In order to mass produce a all in one power brick or just make it as a DIY product that can be sold in China (specifically). The investment into getting the required certification is too much. In order to get all these certification, in need to invest 10x money and build a factory. I don’t have that capability.
The key is that in order to get certification for selling any thing for 220v input is difficult, it require at least 10000 unit to be produced. But anything other (48v, 5v, etc.) is easy, there is no such ludicrious requirement for DIY. That is why we are going the adapter route.
Going illegal is not an option unfortunately.
240W PD brick will be available from major companies. But not very soon tho.

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I think that into mid 2025 there may be more laptops with 240W PD. Right now though there is really nothing outside of this framework laptop.
This is part of the reason why companies don’t care to make higher wattage power adapters. Even the 140W Plugable unit that I have is not very popular on Amazon just due to the lack of people who have devices that can utilize it.

There are inline tools that allow you to read e-marker chips on USB cables.

I use this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BJ24PVNJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you don’t really want to use something like this, you could always just buy quality cables that are certified like CLUB3D cables. They aren’t braided pretty, but they’re certified to work at whatever ratings they claim (if its not a counterfeit, watch out for those). USB4 cables are kinda chunky, but work up to 240W and e-marker chip also verifies that claim.

I’m just going to echo the concerns of some others here. If it only cost $8k to develop and get a 240W adapter to market, Framework would have done it. I’d be hesitant to trust in those quotes. Assuming a salary of $150k, that’s enough to pay 1 engineer for a little less than 3 weeks of R&D.

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That’s not even enough money to produce the same 5V 1A adapter as always and put it into a new case.

You can still use a fw card for charging, and this to expand the number of ports. And apart from gaming or constant high performance use, you don’t need more than 60-100W. I checked with a testet, watching YouTube in 4k with the screen set high was around 60W.

Btw the fw16 really needs 48V240W, it’s just that doesn’t exist yet.

Personally I ordered without considering the charging at all, so even the 36V seems fine. I’m probably going to use it with my kb and mouse to share a single card.

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I do believe there is a 240W adapter on Mouser that one can preorder that is going to be released in December

Google wasn’t help, do you have the exact link?

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/delta-electronics/ADP-240KB-BA/23026419?s=N4IgTCBcDaIARgCwAYDqcCqBlAQgWgGE4AFAewHcBTAJzgBFKAbASwDcaBPEAXQF8g

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I am pretty sure this is what Framework Tweeted out at some point … I can’t find the OG tweet …

Oh wow, that’s a big charger! 162 x 72 x 23 mm or 6.4 x 2.8 x 0.9 inches. Glad that something at least is coming on the market soon from a reputable brand.

Digikey has a 240W charger they should be shipping at the end of the month:

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yeah I have already ordered one and wait to see how it was like. if I can sort of study what is like

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I’d say for the wattage it’s okay. I’ve got several 120W and 180W single voltage barrel jack PSUs for my NUCs that are the same size.

Working great

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^ this is the one I am using.

That can’t do 240W USB-PD.
Rather, it’s only a 140W USB-PD capable charger, except with multiple ports.

It’s the marketing BS some companies like to do, giving the total wattage, and giving the single-port abilities hidden in finer print.

This is the maximum output you can get on each port:

DC: 140 watts
USB-C1 / USB-C2 / USB-C3: 140 watts
USB-A: 30 watts

The Framework charger can do more, 180W
frame.work/products/16-power-adapter?v=FRANCR000B

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Yup, I just found the same data about the product that’s correct, no 240W Power delivery :confused:

Currently, the only reference I know (and have now) is the DIGIKEY 240W usb-c adapter (1145-ADP-240KBBA) that framework mentionned somewhere some time ago.

I you want to see a sneak peek of the DIGIKEY 240W for some who hesitated without pictures/size comparison of the product check : this link (youtube)

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@chet_merrier posted a Pic of the digikey 240w Adapter just 2 Posts above herr :wink: the digikey one is manufactured by Delta.

Yup I saw it, just there wasn’t the framework charger aside to compare as some may want to now the différence.

It’s really compact for a 240W adapter, even though I think framework manufacturers would do a little better, even more with a replaceable usb c cable. But overall it’s a great adapter.

I’m interested in AllThingsOnePlace reviewing it

btw the powerZ c240 I’m using to see power consumption though usb-c doesn’t work with the adapter, it seam like it can’t power itself (Black screen) while still being capable of charging the laptop

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