8000 series is also still very far away, however with what Intel has on it’s roadmap I would even understand if framework won’t bother to release an AMD version. 14th gen is planned to come in H2 of 2023, with a potential Q3 release, bringing apparently huge efficiency uplifts, thanks to Meteor Lakes efficiency focus and Intel 4. Also the first tGPU, a GPU on a tile of the chip instead of being integrated, with Intel ARC cores means we should expect a huge step in gpu performance, I guess somewhere between RDNA 2 and 3 iGPUs. Since the usual GPU Generation release schedule is 2 years I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ryzen 8000 with the same iGPU as Phoenix, but maybe across the board. So with the gap being closed down, I wouldn’t see that as a reason to need AMD anymore. That combined with Intel’s efficiency and performance claims, high enough to seem Ryzen 8000 competitive, despite the earlier release, I wonder for what reason framework should invest into an AMD version at that point. And with Arrow Lake also coming with huge steps in performance and a Battlemage iGPU it does not look like that would change anytime soon. Intel might even pull ahead of AMD here. Sure, they also improve theyr tech, but Intel is talking about big steps and we’ll have to see if AMD also has some. With RDNA 4 the iGPU Battle surely gets intresting again, but then again, AMD will be on RDNA 4 for 2 years, while Intel’s roumored to step theyr iGPU up again at 15th gen with Celectial. Intel will have to slow down at that point, having finally cough up with their GPU architecture cycle, but they also will be in a very good position, not to forget the performance and efficiency improvements that Lunar Lake is rumoured to have.
Of course, for all of that to happen Intel has to do something they’r not really good at, meet deadlines. However they surely are working on that and improving themselves, so I wouldn’t say they won’t just because of the past.
So with all of that said, I wouldn’t bet on framework releasing an AMD version next gen either. They can’t take advantage of AMD’s better position right now and in the future it seems like they’ll lose that to Intel again, or be on par with them. Developing an AMD version would mean investing a lot of money into the option that is at best on par.
That doesn’t mean I don’t wish for an AMD version or there are no reasons for it.
- If AMD falls behind they’ll have to be aggressive with pricing and can bring better value, if Intel does not go aggressive on pricing and keep on hiding features behind a premium
- Framework gets less depended on just Intel
- Intel will have a rough 2023 and needs to stay on track with their deadlines, otherwise they stay behind and at some point they won’t have any money left to finance their comeback. Framework will need to be quick if they don’t have AMD CPUs in theyr lineup at that point already if they don’t want to sink with Intel’s ship.
For now, if u need a notebook now
- and want a framework, get a framework. The laptop stays the same and with that, upgradable in the future. And most people don’t even notice the difference in performance.
- and want an AMD CPU, no matter what, look for a different laptop. I explained why I don’t think we’ll see AMD any time soon here.
If u don’t need it immediatly but soon u can consider waiting for 13th gen if u think u need the extra performance or GPU features.
And if u only upgrade because u want a faster device, but not because u need it, consider waiting for 14th gen. Since Mobile might come already in Q3 it’s not waiting for a whole year and considering the upgrades that 14th gen promises compared to the situation 13th gen is in next to Ryzen 7000 it might be worth the wait, even when 1300P/U series only has to compete against 7035U, which is 6000U series, at max.