A HardwareUnboxed video although now I canât find it. It was a lovely graph tho. TBH, it really doesnât matter too much since Framework only boosts to those TDPâs and doesnât stay there. At 28W, AMD is just better right now.
Protip - many of Hardware Unboxedâs video content can be found in article form on TechSpot. For example, the graph you speak of is presumably the one from the following review:
Of course they do. Doesnât make it so however. Doesnât make Intel an automatic superior choice either. Browser vulnerabilities are of far more concern than silicon vulnerabilities in either case since those are far more exploitable. That applies to both Spectre/Meltdown and SQUIP.
Especially considering that 90% of browsers are chrome, and the proliferation of desktop programs based on electron, which is also basically chrome. Weâre rapidly heading back to the IE era where browser vulnerabilities had repercussions that extended far beyond the browser.
la verdad que framework me parece genial pero se esta tardando demasiado en traer la opciĂłn con amd, yo quisiera saber por que,
intel si a mejorado bastante pero a costa de un mayor consumo sin embargo amd lanzara unos grĂĄficos integrados y un procesador de 16 nĂșcleos, todo ello a un menor consumo si no eh comprado framework es por que no tiene un procesador amd que es el rey de la eficiencia, se que a muchos les gusta intel tengo que admitir que a base de mucho consumo lograron superarlo pero amd es mi opciĂłn favorita es mas.
the truth that framework seems great to me but it is taking too long to bring the option with amd, I would like to know why,
intel has improved a lot but at the cost of higher consumption however amd will launch integrated graphics and a 16-core processor, all this at a lower consumption if I have not bought a framework it is because it does not have an amd processor which is the king of efficiency, I know that many like intel I have to admit that based on a lot of consumption they managed to overcome it but amd is my favorite option is more
Another point is the cooling. I think it should have neodymium magnets and the heatsinks should be made of synthetic blue diamonds, which are proven to be the best conductors of heat. With this, an amazing overclocking is done.
0_o Thatâd make for one expensive laptop right there.
Would probably take a fair few years just to get a viable design out the door, Iâm no laptop manufacturing engineer but this type of design and the quality it will have to adhere to is no quick process, itâs not like cut and pasting an Intel CPU out and putting an AMD one in.
In my opinion, Overclocking laptops is a futile endeavour, the sacrifices youâd have to make would essentially give you a slightly more portable mini NUC rather than having a laptop.
I havenât seen any mention of âAMDâ nor âRyzenâ from nrp or Kieran_Levin. Itâs a fantasy at this point for all we know. i.e. Framework is hush-hush on this.
Announcing an upcomming platfor WILL reduce sales on existing platforms.
So from a company point of view, they donât want to announce a platform until itâs ready to ship.
Not sure how definitive that is. Some people donât get forced into buying a product due to lack of option. Especially when product release is almost like clockwork from one generation to another generation. The AMD processor option here is an alternative to the current time periodâŠnot of future generation. If people want an AMD option, itâs very likely theyâll hold it outâŠor go elsewhere if Framework doesnât provide that. A lose-lose in either case. Sure, there are some who may settle for Intel for the lack of AMD optionâŠbut thatâs likely the minority given some known issues with the Intel option (battery life, for one).
One could also argue that not covering the potential AMD user base is just sending potential customers to competitions.
I just realized something - DDR4 support may be a key reason for Framework to continue with Intel for the time being.
Therefore itâs extremely possible that an AMD option may not appear until Intel no longer supports DDR4 (14th gen should in theory be DDR5-only) at which point it could even make sense for Framework to just straight up only offer an AMD board since thereâs no sign of AMD slowing down their per-generational performance uplifts anytime soon (Zen5 is supposedly another âZen2 momentâ).
BTW on the subject of upcoming AMD CPUs, Zen4 desktop aka Ryzen 7000 is going to be revealed 3 days from now (Monday 7pm EDT).
If they announced âAMD Boards coming in early 2023â Then a lot of people will hold of buying till then. Which means theyâre producing items with reduced sales coming in.
From a cash flow point of view theyâre far better waiting till they are starting production before announcing it.
How did you reach the action of âhold of buyingâ?
e.g. Thereâs some degree of bias here.
Youâre assuming the amount of Intel-wanting customer is insufficient to provide the necessary cash flow (whatever that amount isâŠhow do you know?), and / or the amount of them would be sway by having a future AMD option. e.g. How do you know they can / will wait? How do you know the amount of people who can wait will wait (1), for a Framework option (2)?
Iâm trying to point out that you seem very certainâŠbut without supporting material. Getting back to âNot sure how definitive that isâ.
For example, given Product option A is up for sale, then subsequently announcing Product option B, it is not definitive how the announcement may / may not affect sales of option A. You need to bring in data points for you to correlate how the characteristics of option B may / may not pose a challenge to existing sales.
e.g. Ice-cream: Offering chocolate flavour only. Later announcing the introduction of poo-flavoured ice-cream. Will that affect the sales of chocolate flavoured ice-cream? Now, in the alternative universe, instead of introducing the poo-flavoured ice-cream, they went with bubble-gum flavoured ice-cream. How will this post-announcement sale figure be affected differently between the two?