There isn’t a viable option and after looking into potential available alternatives, it did not make a meaningful difference in pricing. This is a priority that we’re working on behind the scenes, but we can’t and won’t communicate status until we are confident in a greenlight and realistic timelines.
7 Likes
You don’t have to use Amazon, there are other fulfillment providers like Monta for example. If I were Framework, I would use this for a smaller test market like maybe Danmark and see how it goes.
1 Like
A data point from me:
- currently shipping costs for a 61Wh battery would be €12 (to Germany), which seem quite reasonable to me. (it just says “standard shipping”, so perhaps they set up their Europe hub after all)
An opinion from me:
- I just now noticed that my laptop is being shipped by plane, and also via a quite complex route, from Taiwan to China, then India, then Dubai, France, …
I would have liked to have been given the option to select shipping by boat, given that it’s over 10% of the carbon footprint of the laptop. I hope this becomes available soon, esp for the more heavy items.
1 Like
Yes, this is the case. It was set up in early October, although the announcement was buried in a blog post about the AMD machines.
I see there’s no movement on this front yet.
Yikes.
Here’s hoping Framework becomes successful enough to open a fulfillment center in Australia!
1 Like
I was previously planning on reselling FW components within Australia, so I might revisit this idea.
1 Like
I’d love to see them use Amazon so I can take advantage of Prime free shipping. (Not that I really want to put any more cash in Bezos’ wallet.)
This is actually something that I could achieve myself.
That’d be cool, and would complement your existing store nicely. But for it to be profitable, you’d need to get the products at a discount from Framework, which probably means entering into a some sort of reseller agreement with them.
I decided on just adding the products to my current store as I have to be over 18 to sell with Amazon, expansion cards will be posted shortly, and currently deciding what other products to also resell. I will add a $2AUD markup + shipping, so you will probably be spending around $10-15 depending on where AusPost classes your address (Local/Capital, metro, remote), so a $15 discount compared to Framework.
If you want a particular product that isn’t listed other than laptops, let me know and Ill add it.
Forgot to mention this, but this is for Australian customers only, and when I do eventually sell batteries, express post is not available, only parcel post.
Everything that sells through Amazon has to pay a commission to Amazon.
I do not know what it is now but it is at least 10-15% cut that Amazon always gets. Plus there are other fees that they assign the merchant if they choose to “stock” their merchandise at a warehouse instead of fulfilling it themselves as a 3rd party.
Amazon is not nearly as benevolent as it might seem. Especially to small businesses. They have a history of making sure Amazon always comes first.
1 Like
Well aware of these things. In fact I have sold through amazon myself in the past.
There are no purely benevolent mega-corporations.
If one orders a $0.99 part from China, you get free delivery.
If I order a 0.99 part from a shop in my own country, it has 2.00 postage.
I don’t understand how it is possible to be more expensive to order locally than from China.
OK, when one orders from China like that, I don’t even expect it to turn up, but they all have turned up.
Maybe FW could have postal choices.
- assured delivery by fedex or DHL or whoever
- a “do you feel lucky” delivery for less price, but the part might never turn up, or take 30 days to arrive.
I personally think China is probably subsidising all export delivery costs in a effort to dominate the market. Not sure if that is a fair market.
It’s a combination of things. Your country’s postal service subsidizing in-country delivery costs, due to agreements to deliver foreign countries international mail in exchange for them doing the same (local postage prices subsidize in-country delivery of foreign mail), see the Universal Postal Union, likely china subsidizing some costs on their end, likely economies of scale, being setup to efficiently condense and move huge numbers of small package (your package is not handled individually for the bulk of it’s trip), and low wadges for basic jobs in china.
1 Like
China is currently still categorized as a “transitional country” by the Universal Postal Union (an organization which basically manages how sending international post works, you can’t really expect every country to make separate agreements with every other country), which means they pay basically nothing when sending international packages.