BIOS guide

:grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing: best of luck Kris!

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Thanks William!

At 20% I got a notification that one hour and eighteen minutes of battery life remained. I took a screenshot and the window manager froze, then suddenly started glitching out. Additionally the screen started tearing (dark/purple colors running vertically).

Closing my second firefox window fixed this issue for the moment!

I am really noticing the smaller screen however! Discord as well as Discourse feels cramped.

My last two BIOS updates have resulted in the laptop (11th gen) being in a semi-bricked state. It sits there with screen blank, periodically power cyclic according to the power button light, flashing LED codes on the side LED. If I interpreted them properly, it looked like it was continuously redoing memory retraining.

Doing Fully Resetting the Mainboard State - Framework Guides recovered the machine to full working state both times.

I thought the first time it might have been me interrupting the update somehow (eg thought it was finished but force power cycled it). But on this most recent 3.17 update I left it alone plugged into power for over an hour (I forgot about it) so I assume there was no chance of it having been interrupted.

I have done a number of other BIOS updates with no problems. This most recent time was via LVDS. I don’t remember what I used the last time it ended up in a bad state - might have been LVDS or UEFI shell.

EDIT: Hm, it seems to brick every time it suspends, which is the same behaviour I saw before. I think I’ll need to re-flash it.

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Just wanted to have it on record for the Framework team (will send a message, too).
I use a bios password on boot, and for the first month it worked flawlessly. Recently, it still works, but there is significant and random/variable delay between when I press a key and when it registers on screen. I use capital letters in the BIOS password and this sometimes causes them to not register correctly unless I hold the shift key down the whole time from when I press and let go of the letter key until the character entry shows up on the screen. I don’t know why all of a sudden it became unpredictably laggy like this. The rest of the BIOS is a bit laggy too, but I don’t remember if that was always like that or not. It’s not a huge deal; it just takes a bit longer and a pinch of patience to boot up the computer. But something that could be addressed in an update or something.

I found others having the same issue and confirmed the solution in this thread.
:melting_face: :ok_hand: :+1: :pinched_fingers: Took a little digging to find but good to go!

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I just checked my BIOS version and I apparently have 3.05

Hi @chrissobel see this thread on the minor bios version difference for 12th Gen Intel mother boards.

I think we might be able to update this page’s first comment with the information about the Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition now. It’s such as the knowledge base page, the BIOS product/vendor/initial version and etc.

Guys who bought the edition, can you report the info on this thread? Thanks.

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Hey folks, apologies if this is not the right thread to post this on, but does anyone know if there is a way to disable secure boot from within Linux, i.e. edit a BIOS setting via a script?

In general, there is no (and there should not be a) way to disable secure boot from within the operating system. That would somewhat defeat the purpose of secure boot, as a rootkit could just turn off the security features before it installed itself. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I just updated this thread’s first comment with the info about Framework Laptop Chromebook Edition based on what we know.

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Updated about a month ago, but having major issues with eGPU and Thunderbolt Hub (Windows 11, i7-1280P, 64GB, 4TB), which I didn’t have with 3.05. Can someone provide the link for 3.05, so I can go back?

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@Danny_Goff You can’t go back with 12th gen or it screws your left ports. They will only operate at USB 3 speeds if you downgrade.

So going back to 3.05 causes USB3 speeds on USB4/TB4 hardware? DEFINITELY a gap/concern there…

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@Danny_Goff Tbf, they did warn you about that in the initial post. And it looks like I was wrong…its USB 2.0 speeds.

Just to be clear, 11th gen can still downgrade. Only 12th gen gets borked doing so as far as I know.

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It seems that InsydeH2O BIOS is used for both Framework 13 Intel 13 Gen and AMD - https://twitter.com/insydesw/status/1639393614148296705

Disappointing but not unexpected, maybe us software turbonerds will get some love next time around.

Is there any reason to update to 3.10 now? I just checked and found they have released 3.10 UEFI update. What are the improvements and reasons to update.
I am currently on 3.07 with Windows 10, my CPU is 11th gen. I am planning on going to Windows 11 with a clean install soon.
Thanks

@R_P Just take a look at the thread for the change log, here is the very first thing written on the post.

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What are the security vulnerabilities? How serious it? People want to know.
Thanks

The BIOS vendor Inside Software’s CVE list is below. The link is also in the first comment on this page. Then you see CVSS v3 numbers. As on the page, it’s not easy to search by CVE such as e.g. “CVE-2021-41842” by browser search, but you can open Inspect menu or the HTML source, and search by “CVE-2021-41842”. And you see the CVSS v3 number of this CVE is 8.2. In my impression, if the number is more than “high”, it’s better to apply it.

https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln-metrics/cvss

High 7.0-8.9
Critical 9.0-10.0