Yeah that bit is quite unexpected, I was digging for hidden menus in the bios for a while before I figured that out.
In this thread’s first comment, I updated Framework Intel 12th gen, the current beta version as 3.08.
I found that the power consumption is high while in BIOS. My Framework Laptop 13 has a power consumption about 3~5W when idling on desktop running Linux or Windows, however in BIOS, a whopping 18W
That’s normal, the system is in a very basic mode in BIOS/UEFI and there are for example no specific power saving features active.
At least 11th Gen and 12th Gen Intel have a “Boot performance mode” (or similar) under Advanced in BIOS/UEFI. Choosing a more “battery-friendly” option at least quiets the “starting jet-engine” noise level of the fans. Maybe the graphic BIOS/UEFI of the 13th Gen Intel and AMD 7040 have a similar option hidden somewhere?
I don’t think so. With the 12th Gen and “Max Battery” for “Boot performance mode”, I still get the jet engine as soon as I boot into Windows - and Linux still turbo-boosts if PPD is set to balanced or performance (or not installed at all).
It does on my 12th Gen (still, just checked with the 3.08 Beta BIOS):
“Turbo Performance” (factory default) → jet engine after 30 s, switching to “Max Battery”, saving and rebooting into BIOS/UEFI → silence (even after 10+ min), switching back to “Turbo Performance”, saving and rebooting into BIOS/UEFI → jet engine after ~ 20 s
Well, I only mentioned, that it’s quiet while in BIOS/UEFI? Maybe it’s different for the 11th Gens because they’re not as jet-engine noisy in the first place?
I just thought (in regard to @Charlie_6’s problem) it might be worth to check if “Max Battery” for “Boot performance mode” (or something similar for 13th Gen Intel / AMD 7040 if available) might not only reduce the noise level but also the power consumption while in BIOS/UEFI
I’ll do the same.
Looking for a guide to all of the settings in Bios for the Laptop 13 13th gen. There must be user guidelines somewhere, but all I’ve found is the copied list of all of the menus on the screen, not the meanings and implications. Have not been able to locate them yet via search either, not even in the BIOS guide - Framework Laptop 13. I could have missed it there.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
Laptop 13 13th gen Intel(R) Core™ i7-1360P 2.20 GHz
Windows 11 Pro 23H2
22631.3672
Hi,
They may be self explanatory for some people, but I’m probably in good company of others not wanting to rely on Google about the real meanings and implications of the settings. I believe I gave the laptop version, the bios that came on it is 3.03.
The manual attached is from 21 years ago, and it maybe be all you need but doesn’t really apply to especially the more complex processor and security settings today. Something like that for today’s Bios is what is expected and it must be available somewhere, right?
Thanks!
Thanks. That’s about it for what I’ve changed so far too. Plus turning off Quick Startup.
Hopefully a user manual will appear somewhere, I’ve never seen a laptop without a BIOS manual, often built into the BIOS, but sometimes on a website. They can be quite detailed, but having nothing makes the laptop worth much less, especially to an enterprise (I’m not an enterprise, just commenting on the target for many BIOS manuals, for security options for example). Hopefully someone from Framework Laptop 13 is reading this!
I vote for a manual if it can be produced without ridiculous effort. I don’t know in advance what to expect from BIOS settings. I would like to browse them in case there is something I’m missing. The BIOS interface is not always obvious, and it’s a lot of trouble to switch between installed OS and BIOS to check things.
A way of making BIOS visible while the OS is running would be very helpful, but I expect that is too difficult.
Thanks. I did find this already too. It is just pictures of the screens, we can get that by going into BIOS settings. Looking for a user manual. Been looking around, seems like this BIOS got left behind 20 years ago - the last manual as you found is from 2003, and when looking around this week, it is true that many laptops have a very much more sophisticated BIOs now in 2024 which do so much more in terms of helping optimize performance in real time to get high performance + battery life. The Laptop 13 battery just lasts 5 hours, that is less than half of the better laptops at the same price. Maybe its all about the old tech BIOS?
sorry if it’s a dumb question. but what exactly does the ‘boot performance mode’ do?
it only affects the performance during boot?
A friend nick-named it the “jet-engine emulator switch”…
Obviously enough, one wants to know how the ‘boot performance mode’ accelerates boot and whether enabling the mode has any draw-backs. (Presumably there is some draw-back, for, otherwise, why have the option at all?)
Could you tell me about the details of the Intel Core Ultra Series 1 bios? What is the initial version of the BIOS? And the bios product is InsydeH2O UEFI Firmware, right? Could you tell me about the output of the following commands on Linux? Thanks.
$ sudo dmidecode -s bios-vendor
$ sudo dmidecode -s bios-version
I can not edit this thread’s first comment now. I don’t know why. I wanted to fix the tags properly.
I can edit the first comment now.
@Destroya I think the Framework Laptop 16 AMD’s BIOS version is 03.05, not 03.03, seeing the following page. Only the BIOS Release Date is updated with December 6, 2024.
https://www.reddit.com/r/framework/comments/1c5uotv/framework_laptop_bios_and_driver_releases/
good catch! fixed it now!