I was having similar issues immediately after updating to 3.07 but was surprised to find the issues persisted after downgrading back to 3.05. My power cord had coincidentally gone bad at the same time I upgraded, and it was only noticeable under very high loads that needed the full 160-180W of the PSU. If you’ve got $10 to spare, might be worth picking up a new 240W cable to test it out.
Imma throw my hat into the pile as well. (TLDR at bottom)
Info:
Win11 25H2
7700S GPU installed
Stock 180w charger/cable
Issue1:
The “Power stuttering” (aka wild frequency jumps on cpu/gpu) has been a issue since 3.05 for me. After a lot of experimenting, it seems to be triggered if cpu uses more then roughly 25w for extended periods of time (around 40 min). Once it enters said state, i can physically hear the inductors rattling from the erratic spikes and gpu power drops from 90w to around 35 and cpu dropsslightly as well, but still over 25w trigger limit.
I have found a way to reverse the state while its triggered without replugging/restart:
Forcing the cpu below 25w. I usually achieve this by editing the tjmax limit to 60C, therefore throttling the cpu power. If i do this for some time, the stuttering stops and everything returns to normal again. The throttle time varies on how long the stuttering has been triggered for it to reset. It feels like a temperature going over a threshold, triggering stuttering, and cooling down, resetting it. but thats just a guess, since i have not found any correlation to TZXX temp sensors.
Issue2: (simillar to the low cpu freq bug)
Since ver 3.07 (updated from 3.06) a new bug has appeared for me. The OS (Windows) loses PowerMode communication wit the EC if you turn on battery saver while plugged in. No PowerMode event is getting sent anymore in the EC-log. And even worse, the ec seems to get stuck to setting the powerlimit to 20w when you unplug while the bug is triggered. No matter how many restarts/wait time/replugs you do. Its gonna be stuck at 20w until EC is reset/battery completely drained/or bios Setup utility is entered for more then 12 seconds (my preferred way to reset).
PS: if you trigger the bug while dGPU is activated and everything under load, mayhem will happen because the min power-draw of dGPU, GPU, CPU combined is over 20w, and the EC will compleatly loose its shit trying to go under 20w, leading to excessive stuttering, freezing or once even a bsod.
Issue3:
Might be linked to Issue2. Since 3.05, the windows AMD software seems to loose connection with the laptop and/or crash. Most of the settings in there will vanish and gpu muxing will not work anymore. I have sadly never found a concrete way to reproduce the issue relieably. but it happened quite often. Said disconnection will persist over restarts and driver reinstalls. It can be fixed temporairly by resetting the EC. It also just randomly starts working again sometimes.
Issue4:
Not very well documented yet, but there seems to be a kind of powerlimit creep where the laptop slowly starts lowering the powerlimit watt-by-watt (observable in AMDsoftware) until it reaches 60w in a span of hours during heavy load. The battery is still at 85% to, so no reason to throttle. Currently investigating trigger-conditions.
If anyone is interested in more detailed documentation including HWInfo logs of issue1, EC-Logs of Issue2 and more detailed reproduction steps, just ask.
TLDR:
The low CPU freq bug manifests quite diffrently for me via going through the floor with the power-limit.
The freq jumping around bug might be tied to something getting hot, can be fixed by lowering cpu power consumption
And other EC-Mayhem being observed since 3.05
oh boy, what a post i just made here…
HI, regarding issue with “Power stuttering”, there is bios 4.01 alpha and there are positive reports that issue is gone. see following thread Framework Laptop 16 Ryzen 7040 BIOS 4.01 Release BETA - #80 by knipp30
how tf did i miss that…
thank you, will try out now. gonna update there
I haven’t checked if other users are still having this issue, but I’ve known about the 550MHz CPU clock bug when waking from sleep in older BIOS versions, and I personally never had it happen. But I just woke my laptop from sleep and had it running extremely slowly. I checked Task Manager and sure enough, the CPU was at 550MHz. Just thought I should mention it since it was reported to be fixed in the 3.07 BIOS version. And yes, I checked if I was on the 3.07 version with the latest driver bundle, and I am.
I don’t think it was ever fixed in the 3.07 version. Supposedly it is on the 4.01, but on that version I still see it throttling on wake for a few minutes. Doesn’t stay that way like it did on previous bios versions though.
The 3.07 BIOS release notes say that the issue was fixed
