Ok, saying all of this of the top of my head, seeing it’s @James3 who done previous in depth analysis on this issue in the past… thought I say this now although I wanted to wait a bit longer ( early January )
So this FTR/FTH issue I’ve been experiencing since 3.04 through 4.01, since 4.02 I’ve not had a single FTR/FTH
I’ve done all my usual aggressiveness to try trigger this issue
main one for me is to have the laptop in AC or DC mode and external panel plugged in with youtube, system stat monitors and so showing on the secondary screen while the framework panel at 165Hz with VRR enabled is running a game in fullscreen ( Vulkan rendering )… yeah no FTR/FTH.
I’ve somewhat avoided saying anything because I didn’t want to get my hopes up but yeah… I can usually trigger this issue within 45 minutes… but it’s been 33 days ( up to yesterday ) and still no FTR/FTH
however… I have noticed two things
the average TDP when fully loaded is now 42W, not the usual 54 ( I think the BIOS change logs said something about this ) regardless of whether I’m in power-save, balanced_power, balanced_performance or “performance”, performance profiles ( not often I use power-save now unless I’m on DC ). I’m assuming the PTM7958 from Framework is good
the other thing I’ve noticed ( for months including previous BIOS versions but never said anything because I thought it was related to the 500Mhz issue and still trying to work out if it’s amd_pstate or BIOS issue ) sometimes the processor ( zen4 ) just refuses to go above 3.8GHz and doesn’t matter which performance profile I use. Rebooting is the only fix to this ( this is why I kept banging on about PROCHOT flags in the past as I thought it might have something to do with that ). Someone in 4.02 BIOS also mentioned they’ve experienced this ( first I heard of someone else saying this )
Honestly… was fucking shocked to see it didn’t crash ( FTR/FTH ) after 2 hours of gaming on framework screen while youtube and numerous other things going off on my other screen
I vented at Framework support and not responded to them since… but since BIOS 4.02 … may say something again but I want to make sure this isn’t some delusion I’m going through… but I’ve tried so dam hard to trigger this shit FTR/FTH thing… and nothing… 33 days and counting…
I’m now reconsidering Framework again ( I said in previous thread this is my last Framework product ) and that’s also because of ROCm 7.10 support on Strix Point
oh and in the previous post ( 4.02 ) I mentioned something about keyboard firmware not updating… yeah… it was due to lack of this in udev ( I’ll just show you the whole line but it’s the uaccess part )
- Framework Laptop 16 - Keyboard
ATTR{idVendor}==“32ac”, ATTR{idProduct}==“0018”, ATTR{power/autosuspend}=“-1”, ATTR{power/control}=“on”, TAG+=“uaccess”
- Framework Laptop 16 - Numpad
ATTR{idVendor}==“32ac”, ATTR{idProduct}==“0014”, ATTR{power/autosuspend}=“-1”, ATTR{power/control}=“on”, TAG+=“uaccess”
there’s another thread somwhere ( I think it’s pinned, don’t know where it is ) that also shows other Framework devices too about this uaccess thing ( not because of firmware updates but something else )
It’s good to say something on this forum that doesn’t make me feel like a bloody parrot around here
My current system configuration is
Framework 16 AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS using Radeon 780M ( no dGPU )
RAM/Memory: 128GB ( 2x64GB ) - Crucial 128GB Kit (64GBx2) DDR5-5600
NVME 2280: Western Digital SN850X 2TB - Firmware 620361WD
NVME 2230: Western Digital SN770M 2TB - Firmware 731120WD
BIOS: 4.02
Gentoo Linux 2.18 ( Linux 6.19-rc1 mainline PREEMPT_RT, compiled by clang 21.1.8 march and mtune set to znver4 )
KDE Plasma 6.4.5 Wayland
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now on to step two ( not Framework related issue ) why my bloody NCM865 Wi-Fi module fails to scan SSID’s ( currently using Intel AX210 for now )