It very noticeably changes the look, but it’s hard to say one is definitively preferable than the other. Whites shift more toward red than the default, where they look greenish blue. Obviously there are a lot of other changes, but they are less noticeable at a glance.
Anyone who wants to have a play, is welcome to try out the profiles. There are two. One is the first one I got, the second one was created with slightly different settings in the calibration program, but they ended up extremely similar.
I suppose, post calibration, some things look a bit more natural. I think the shift toward red in the whites stands out initially, and looks wrong, just because it’s different. But I think the almost teal look to the white point before calibration gives everything a look almost like you’ve applied one of those Windows color themes.
But color is pretty subjective, so it’s hard to say if one or the other would be definitively preferable to more folks.
Edit: I also wonder if they all have a similar look to mine, or if there is some variation. Maybe none of them generally have a better coverage of the sRGB gamut, but maybe some don’t have the big spikes in the Delta-E that mine does, or has them in different places.
Thanks for sharing. Don’t have calibration hardware but will compare what the uncalibrated display of my FW12 looks like, compared to your images + test your profiles.
It’s a shame Notebookcheck haven’t done a full review yet. They cover this stuff pretty well.
This is Framework - a better display option might come yet. Especially since so many of us, beyond the education or teen market have pre-ordered one and will no doubt use them in so many more ways than they’d imagine.
For now my plan is plug in to my monitor when I need to actually do colour important work - or even bring up a colour picker on my phone and use the hash codes on the machine since most projects use a palette anyway. Let’s face it, for serious work, you probably have a desk setup anyway - use it.
Calibrated or uncalibrated, the missing reds are noticeable. In fact, I just connected up an external monitor that is a similar size and the same resolution. Immediately, I could see the deeper, better represented reds. I didn’t calibrate it, but I did a quick check with my colorimeter, and it covered 99% of sRGB, and the triangle almost perfectly lined up with sRGB.
Speaking of which, I forgot to upload the graph of where the FW 12 display lines up compared to sRGB. So here you go.
The orangey reds are hard to unsee. Calibrated, I think it’s probably more “accurate” overall, but it really doesn’t help the reds. It’s still fine for general use, and a lot of the time, I stop noticing it. But whenever something is on screen that I know what it should look like, and it has a lot of reds, and they all look a bit orange, it’s like “Oh, right. This display sucks at red.”
Interestingly, nature shows don’t tend to have a lot of deep reds in them, and look fantastic, lol.
It technically does. But it doesn’t extend very far towards the red in either standard. Which makes it skew things orange a bit. I’m curious if others find the same thing, or if they aren’t all consistent.
Also, for anyone curious, I plugged in a cheap, external display (which worked perfectly with a single USB C cable, by the way ). The reds looked richer and less orange shifted. I did a quick analysis and the external display tested 99% sRGB. So it doesn’t seem to be an issue with Windows or the GPU drivers or anything. This doesn’t help anyone wanting to do color-accurate art on the built-in display. But if anyone wanted to plug in an external monitor for color accurate work at a desk, that’s definitely an option.
Yeah, to be clear, I’m a little disappointed by the lack of bold reds, but it’s by no means a serious issue for the vast majority of use cases. Even for watching movies and stuff, sure the reds won’t be as punchy, or may even look a bit orangey. But if you aren’t thinking about it, you probably won’t really notice it. It’s got good brightness, good contrast, and a pretty good pixel density for general use. It’s totally fine. But I’ve got two new toys, the FW 12 and the colorimeter, so I’m playing, lol.
@lbkNhubert and @Chazb0t both already installed their Viascreens paperlike screen protector. Maybe they can chime in what their overall impression of red colors was and if the matte protector had any effect on colors at all?
