FW16 Plugged-in Battery Drain - 240W Charger Option

I don’t believe they are available yet from anyone. I imagine Framework will sell one, but they haven’t announced anything yet. The USB spec is new, it takes time for chipmakers to produce dedicated (low cost) chips, and time for manufacturers to create a product around them. It will happen, they just aren’t here yet.

I don’t think, we will see any true 240w charges until any of the big players like Apple say, they’re using 240w PD 3.1, too. Demand is not high enough.

Maybe a DELL or an HP will make one for their Workstation Laptop

Like an XPS 17 with Only or mostly USB C connectors

Framwork is the first company to release a USB-C charger that’s greater than 140W and I believe they expect third parties to make 240W chargers. Unfortunately the only 240W chargers I’ve seen are a total output (e.g. 100W on one port and 140W on another) but I haven’t seen any over 140W through a single port (other than Framwork’s 180W). Unfortunately we’re kinda stuck waiting.

you will surely not regret plugging both cables from one of those chargers into different ports on the same framework!

(do not do this)

From what I’ve seen so far on these forums is that if the laptop is plugged into two different power sources it’ll charge from the higher charger first. So if plugged into two ports on a charger like that it’ll probably only charge at 140W.

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The actual demand isn’t high enough, but a lot of low-information buyers will always go for the biggest numbers they can see, and the charger manufacturers are well aware of that. I suspect that will push them to create 240W chargers pretty quickly, regardless of whether there’s much out there that can use them yet.

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Bigger number better

… and then they complain, that their notebook doesn’t recharge faster, because it is only capable of 100-140W :wink: What happens next? Bad reviews on Amazon or wherever and they send it back. No, that’s not profitable for the manufacturers.

Sure it is, manufacture 1000 chargers, sell 100 branded as Xilifi until the review roll in, than brand the next 100 as Shumufu.

Well, if you buy your chargers from Xilifi, Shumufu, HGHPWR, iGrillYourDevice and whatever keystrokes may happen, if the intern has a nap on the keyboard, it’s on you :wink: I’d wait for more reputable manufacturers.

Why not? I do it all the time. I have two docking stations each 100W.
I know it uses only one for charging but I never had any problems.

Is it possible to use two framework USB-C chargers in parallel on two different ports?

No, the Laptop will only use one port for charging and ignore any other.

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Ok.

TI just came out with a new Buck-Boost bidirectional controller for 240W EPR support with up to 60V operational range.

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ooh that is an interesting looking chip. :+1:

Very cool.

So @Arcadiy_Ivanov1, you work in EE stuff, since apparently you’re seeing these being released?

I don’t. I work in software but have EE interest and some non-professional experience. I did however use TI function to search for “240W USB-C” and found a comment by TI two months ago saying “We are planning to release a part BQ25758 in the next 10-12 days”.

I checked Mouser and 3000 of them are arriving within the next 2 weeks:
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Texas-Instruments/BQ25758RRVR?qs=dbcCsuKDzFU%252B3snfDn9Cwg%3D%3D

Basically the standard procedure for “What chip can I use to do <X>?”

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Ha! Me as well, more or less. I’m quite interested in doing some things on the power side, more complicated than just a few LEDs/running some traces/etc on a PCB to solder things together with.

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It would be cool if someone here actually engineered a 240W charger. I remember a company on Kickstarter that did it. But when I checked it; its just 140W + 100W.

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