Agreed, actually except for the 1 day of ‘success’, with hub, monitors, etc, I usually run the laptop with nothing plugged in. Sigh, almost seemed more stable with the hub and stuff – but not enough for a daily driver.
FWIW: last dnf update (230 PM est 12/23/2022) contained, among other things:
I applied that and after a naked boot (just laptop, no peripherals), almost immediate hang/crudded-up screen. I added back in intel_idle.max_cstate=2; still seems to ok for me at the moment, no enable_psr=0, no Huc/Guc tuning.
I don’t know if this will add something useful to the discussion here but hopefully all small details count.
I just experienced another freeze in the gnome settings in debian sid with a 12th gen frame.work laptop.
keyboard and mouse seemed to be non-responsive, the sound (music) was still going and I could hear my fan running at maximum.
I was able to ssh into the laptop from another computer. from there I could see in dmesg a line mentioning “GPU HANG” like mentioned in #24. the process gnome-shell was running at 100% cpu and when I straced it I could see the following line coming out repeatedly very fast:
Finally had some sort of error, but unless this repeats itself, I don’t think it’s worth noting. Connected to AC power, wifi showed connected and then fell down.
If this error repeats, I’ll note it to the Fedora devs.
Thanks @Gabriel_Filion, different distro and likely different with a number of libraries as well since it’s Debian (not sure which version). But I would agree that GNOME has seen some issues that will likely see solutions in the updates.
Another item to look at when testing is extensions. Turn them all off first and then slowly add. A lot of these troubles are just reminiscent of other issues I have seen elsewhere and quite often they are tied to dash-to-panel, desktop icon related extension, system tray type extensions, anything moving the dash elsewhere or adding old functionality is more likely to create, contirbute, or enhance graphics related issues.
@Matt_Hartley you should try using chrome or something chromium based on your framework laptop.
I don’t think I’ve had a hard freeze while using only firefox. But switching to chrome will trigger one. I also noticed some weird things related to plugging in power.
No such issues with Chromium or Vivaldi, with Firefox running with Discord Video going.
Additional Info: I am using a dock with two external hdmi monitors at 1920x1080. Intel i7-1260p, 64GB RAM, P41 SK Hynix NVME. Experiencing no issues at this time on battery or on AC. Fedora 37 (updated daily for now), Wayland, Gnome. Have not had a hard freeze in two weeks now.
Currently trying to run with minimal extensions and without the i915 kernel option. So far ran for a good couple hours with Chrome, Discord w/ video and screen share, and more without any issue. Perhaps my two graphical extensions have some connection to the freezes I’ve been experiencing.
Initially all but eventually turned all back on except “Gnome 4x UI Improvements” and “Blur my Shell”. My finding are unfortunately inconclusive and out of convenience I re-enabled the i915 fix.
mine threw it’s toys out of the pram earlier. 2 different youtube videos were crashing firefox every 5-10mins (using hw acceleration).
switched to safe mode (software render/hw accel off) and it was stable over 25-30min video.
switched back to normal firefox (hw accel on) and so far no problems even with the same first 2 videos.
only thing different is starting firefox via cmdline vs the launcher menu.
very frustrating i cant reproduce since it was so prominent 60-90mins ago.
as a reminder on my system; i’m on F37 KDE, fully patched with the 3.06beta bios. no changes like psr/i915 tweaks; out of box config in that respect.
it’s also taken me a long time to experience any further issues since my last reply - weeks since since i last had issues and I’ve considered things are fixed for me. bit suspicous i’ve done both OS updates and bios updates today, but could jus tbe coincidence.
@vhx Appreciate the detail here. And are you using a dock with external displays? I am trying to find the common thread here as mine Framework 11th and 12th connected directly from expansion cards over HDMI have not given me any issues with a fully up to date Fedora 37 GNOME.