Just curious, I think a full 8-9 hours would be great while I’m using VSocde. I have a Lenovo Legion 5 after I sold my Framework 13 a couple weeks ago and the Ryzen 260 with the Nvidia GPU off lands me about 8.5 for my day-to-day task.
I could just transfer what I upgraded to the FW16 (RAM and SSD) to it, but if the issues with the drain like I experienced with the 13 are present I’ll probably just have to wait till it’s figured out or there’s a lower end processor.
I get about 6-15hrs on my FW 16 depending on what I’m doing.
When youre getting 15 what do you do?
Text editing and light (no video/audio) web browsing.
It’ll drop to 6 if I have additional apps like Discord/Steam open.
I run on linux and keep my system pretty lean to maintain battery life, but some of the best battery life scores in the community have come from windows machines as well.
This doesn’t tell you anything, but my 16 idles at about 14w with me only web browsing or working in the “konsole”. The AMD chips can throttle power pretty well, but as soon as you start doing anything that needs power, they really ramp up. I consider the battery time acceptable with this laptop. Most times I need longer usage, I have a usbC connector near by to plug in.
14W seems like a high idle, I idle around 7W, with usage spikes generally under 10W. 14W happens to be my idle draw if the dGPU was woken up though, any chance your dGPU is running?
This is something I didn’t consider. I know you can disable the GPU with Nvidia Optimus but if I want the AMD (for many reasons, mainly to not deal with compatibility issues) can I disable the dpu or do I have to have it in?
AMD has no way to disable it like the nvidia, but honestly in my experience (on Linux) its actually pretty good about not using it unnecessarily. Except for discord.
Naw, the dGPU is sleeping. I know because my led matrix is showing it asleep (D3cold) 
. I think the LED matrix displays contribute to some of that higher wattage and I’m okay with that. Storage expansion module is also inserted and it is always hot so it definitely uses power too. My 14w is also with a few background services running (syncthing, steam, bitwarden, discord, etc). To me that’s just a realistic number if you are not closing everything down to get it as low as possible.
If you have it installed, you have to leave it there. If you want to remove it, you have to power down and take out some screws. It is not hot-swappable.
That said, when it is off (D3Cold), it pretty much uses zero power.
However, polling it will wake it up for a few seconds. I’m Linux only, so can only speak to that, but certain apps particularly Discord, Chrome, will wake it up for a couple seconds when you start the apps, then it will sleep again. No big deal though.
Ah gotcha, yeah that draw makes perfect sense then.