Um, after 17 days, wear increased to 9.350% now…
Edit: I was using 80% charge max, for about a week, yet still 
Over 2.5 months from new and running Ubuntu 21.10 and now 22.04 and only charging to 80% the battery is showing 2.5% wear. Used 80% of time plugged in and over night the laptop is shutdown and unplugged, Running on battery I am getting around 6hr use on “Power Saver”
Monitoring using Linux “Power Statistics”
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Shouldn’t have any impact at all since laptop is running off AC power, but battery wear readouts are weird.
Just chiming back here after setting my battery charge limit to 100% (from its usual 60%) and using the laptop off battery a bit more. I maybe let it discharge all the way once, and at least from 100 to ~3% another time yesterday.
So it used to be at 85%; 9 days ago 87.43%; and after doing the above (really just letting it charge to 100% and discharge all the way to 0%), it’s now reported at 89.4177%.
So I’ve managed to “gain back” 4-5%. If that’s accurate, then ~10% of battery wear in 8 months actually seems okay. And I was using the laptop before the battery charge threshold/limit was available in the BIOS. Even though my laptop has been plugged in most of the time; but also it’s been on 24/7 most of the time too.
Thanks @OxyMagnesium again, I’m a bit less concerned now, and the battery replacements are direct from Framework and seem fairly priced! Hopefully we get a way to reuse old batteries – I’ve been dreaming about some 3D-printable enclosure that we can put old batteries in to make our own battery packs to charge the laptop and/or other devices.
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I can confirm that I am seeing the same behavior as @Michael_Wu. For me, it took a lot longer for the wear to reduce to that level, but the wear percentage changes are very similar. So it seems that this is indeed a wear calculation issue with the battery rather than abnormal physical degradation, which is definitely good. It’s still annoying because a higher (even miscalculated) wear value will cause the battery to charge to a lower level overall, but it’s honestly not a super big deal for me. Thanks a lot to everyone who helped out with this.
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OOTB I was at 98.8% today using 75% limit (I did a full discharge/cycle before checking) I’m down to 95.3% after ~3 months. I would expect the health to stabilise however and not see 20% drop by years end.
It would be nice to be able to see cycle counts and temperature, perhaps this can be made available?
I received my Framework DIY laptop a couple of days ago and when I ran HWInfo64 I noticed that the battery had 2.2% wear leaving it at about 54WHrs rather than 55WHrs. I was just curious if anyone else noticed if their Framework laptops had wear already on the battery?
This is perfectly fine, the battery comes with a certain amount of wear (to my knowledge around 2-4% or so).
Mine is batch 4 and shows 88% or 84%. I think it is 45Wh instead of 55Wh. I think that is how it was when I got it. Is this not normal?
Batch 8 just over 3 months use and running Ubuntu 22.04, power consumption management by “LTP 1.5”. charge limit set to 80% and “Power Statistics” is now showing around 2% wear, this value tends to range between 97.8% to 98.2% capacity not sure why maybe down to ambient/battery temperature.
The laptop will run for around 6hr on the battery.
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Hey Amoun,
I am using KDE’s InfoCenter.
I will try doing a full cycle.
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I did a full charge and KDE Info center reports my battery as 46Wh as a full charge out of 55Wh. It shows a 86% battery capacity. Maybe I got a bad battery?
I got my laptop in October
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I do not think so but I think it was always under 89%
That wouldn’t do anything, though, since the underlying programs and systems are completely different (the shell is different from e.g. powercfg and the two aren’t related).
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Ok, so running upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1 reads charge-cycles: 217. The Framework Battery page reads “This pack is designed to provide up to 80% of its original capacity at 1000 cycles”. My battery is at capacity: 85.3303% after less than a year.
With me being someone who reads into every line, between lines…etc… the 80% is best case scenario given the way it’s worded…and only by “design”. i.e. Actual production / implementation result may differ. And it doesn’t state the worst case, or nominal case expectation.
What’s missing from Framework publicly (to my knowledge) is what’s the battery replacement policy under warranty period?
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Here it is from KDE Info Center:
Health: 97%
Current charge: 100%
Voltage: 17.53V
Original charge capacity: 55.01 Wh
Remaining energy: 53.13 Wh
Last charge: 53.13 Wh
And here is the output from upower,
native-path: BAT1
vendor: NVT
model: Framewo
power supply: yes
has history: yes
has statistics: yes
battery
present: yes
rechargeable: yes
state: fully-charged
warning-level: none
energy: 53.13 Wh
energy-empty: 0 Wh
energy-full: 53.13 Wh
energy-full-design: 55.0088 Wh
energy-rate: 0 W
voltage: 17.53 V
percentage: 100%
capacity: 96.5845%
technology: lithium-ion
icon-name: ‘battery-full-charged-symbolic’
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Hi @amoun, I unfortunately did not check the wear when I received it. I would say I have been using it for about 40 odd days, but mostly on a charger (only on a batter when I have travelled on work).
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