I found an SD card reader that fits

On Linux, we can use powertop for a similar assessment (as well as auto-tuning if you so desire).

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don’t the USB bus power down in sleep?
Or is this reason 10,000,000,001 we shouldn’t have modern standby?

Can’t you turn off “additional sleep states” in bios?

lol nope. The computer doesn’t “actually sleep” at all. I’ve closed the computer, it went to “sleep”, carried it over to the printer I use via USB, plugged it in, and the printer spooled up and spat out my queued print job (as I intended to do, but was amused it worked that way).

Modern Standby is massively frustrating. Mine is going to hibernate about 3-5 times a day now, automatically, because modern standby hits its battery-consumption threshold (I disabled the hibernate-related timers). That’s 3-5 write cycles of multiple GB on the SSD, triggered only by sucking down too much battery in fake sleep.

:neutral_face: I think I remember seeing something about that! Next time I reboot (… weeks later, lol), I’ll have to look into that!

(I desperately wish we could just have regular standby again)

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You can change that in power options in (old control panel)

No, you can’t. Believe me, I’m not new to this.

Hibernate is integral to Modern Standby, and the only option you can control is the fixed hibernate timer - “hibernate after # minutes”. Mine is set to “never”. The thing about “modern standby” is that it doesn’t go to sleep at all - it just, basically, turns off the screen… and hopes nothing will chew through CPU. Then, it places a “budget” on the battery percentage - if it drops more than, say, 5%, it’ll go to hibernate. Whether you like it or not.

Mine now does that several times a day - because I never shut it down, I use sleep. With my other laptops (like the 2013 Latitude E7440 I’m typing on now), I can close the lid, walk away, come back literally 24 hours later, and it’s lost a few percent battery. Framework and Modern Standby, though - it’ll chew through that in 2 hours and drop to hibernate while I’m simply away from it (e.g. using this computer instead).

(insert “orders of magnitude more effort to refute BS than to produce it” image here. I wish people would phrase uncertain things like “can’t you just change that in power options” instead of stating it matter-of-factly)

BTW, I also just checked the BIOS. No options to use other sleep states. Though there is an option for how to handle idle threads… I switched that to “HALT”. Guess we’ll see how that works :slight_smile:

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hm.
you can try powercfg and turn hibernation off.
currently both of my machine I think have modern standby however I both set them to “never” hibernate", that closing the lid do not put the computer to sleep, disabke fast startup (among others), and they seem to be able to sleep indefinitely (6 hours and beyond) while consuming not a lot of battery

However, I know of at least 1 Realtek controller that doesn’t like this (and will refuse to turn off).

Thanks for the guide @Lee_Holbrook! I actually did end up buying and printing the enclosure out. The end result is workable but not perfect. The SD pcb even after being filed down aggressively pushes against the expansion card. This isn’t a problem when putting the card into the laptop but it has been an issue for putting it in expansion card holders. Mine actually pushed the expansion card ends slightly apart. This is soo close. I wonder if removing the giant metal shield will improve this design

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you can’t as the “giant metal shield” is the “socket” (receptacle) where the card will sit in.
As I listed above there is another type of socket (that don’t have the metal tabs sideways) that, if installed, will make a actual design feasible.

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Seems to be the RTS5329 altho the pcb and some other site called it the RTS5129 (I think its just a series with very similiar specs.)
wrong usb plug but this board has U3 populated (probably with code for the micro instead getting it from the driver)

https://koubouwindows-blog53-fc2-com.translate.goog/blog-entry-307.html?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

I have no clue, no datasheets nor flashdump. but might allow the controller to function outside an OS and maybe support better sleepmodes? speculation.

https://docs.rs-online.com/d5b8/A700000006625768.pdf (sorry just boring specsheet for a usb c dongle)
Lists this as incorperated in their dongle, and RTS5420 as an USB hub. I start to think to maybe design a dongle myself, just not sure what I need more, SD cards or something else :face_with_hand_over_mouth: and eh… is easy availeble to me mortal consumer.

EDIT: Hama sells a similiar one: Hama USB 3.0 UHS-II SD Card Reader Review with memory card read and write speed benchmark tests - Camera Memory Speed Comparison & Performance tests for SD and CF cards
I might be able to get those more easily here. wrong plug again tho.

U3 is most likely some sort of a voltage regulator.

the RTS5169 - REALTEK is the USB 2.0 version. Most likely they use an upgraded version that support USB 3.0
Wow Realtek website is so rubbish

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I see the post is a bit of a mess, the top link I spot a U4, no U3, the lowest url has a U3 populated and its a https://www.fmsh.com/nvm/FM25F01_ds_eng.pdf FM25F01 1Mbit serial flash (matching the 4 atleast pins) I think I ment that U3.

And yeah they might have been using a upgraded IC that basicly is the same but a newer faster usb controller thingy on the die

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I made a modified version of the expansion card to fit it the SD card better:

https://www.printables.com/model/316209-framework-laptop-improved-sd-expansion-card

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still havent found one for sale local or easily for me. did find a brand and product page: Delock Products 91498 Delock USB Type-C™ SDHC / SDXC UHS-II / MMC Single Slot Card Reader

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Any know a current place to buy one of these? Every link is dead.

The DeLock 91498 CodeAsm mentioned in his post is buyable in Germany. If you don’t mind the shipping costs, you can order it from amazon.de.

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/DeLOCK-91498-Type-C-Memory-Reader/dp/B077LNYPQW/ref=sr_1_5?language=en_GB
€33 plus shipping. For a card reader, it feels like a lot.

I agree. You can actually get it for half that price:
https://www.reichelt.de/card-reader-extern-usb-3-1-type-c-sd-delock-91498-p225223.html

I just couldn’t find any information about that shop’s shipping costs outside the EU…

To the USA I see €32.78 Shipping costs. “DHL (Weight: 0.05 kg) Expected delivery by DHL in 13-16 work days.” being the only option shown.
The card reader costing €15.08 (excl. VAT)

After having tested the card reader for a while, I am now unsure, if I should proceed putting it in an expansion module casing made of plastic, due to thermal issues. I’d at least need a metallic lid to transfer the heat to the laptop enclosure. I do have a thermal pad to optimize the heat transportation.

For now, I’ll stall this project, at least until I received my Framework laptop.

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Aah. Some SD card do get quite hot.

But since Framework is making one anyway, I will just wait patiently for them to finish their work.

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