I need an excuse

I’ve been wanting a Framework 16 since it was announced but never had the reason to splurge on it. I already have a Framework 13 that does everything I need it to (except game very well which is rare for me to do on a laptop)

You deserve a fantastic Christmas gift to and from yourself.

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Find a different use for you FL13, or give it away.

Or it may be that you’ve always wanted to learn to program microcontrollers and you could do something “practical” with LED matrix modules :wink:

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I have both. Ferris puts it well:

More seriously, it’s not perfect, but if you are willing to make it your own (I had to bend the trackpad “plate”/“piece” very gently at the top corners to align it with the spacers, it is a tinkerer’s dream. I have been fortunate in that I have not encountered any major issues (fingers crossed), but will be replacing the LM with PTM once Framework releases a guide for doing so.

I have the rgb keyboard and have programmed it (lightly) with excellent help from the community here, I was fortunate that @Joseph_Schroedl was kind enough to shut up and take my money for his way cool color LED modules, I am hoping that the dual M2 module - whether Framework’s or @Josh_Cook’s get released soon, I was able to have “containers” for the dGPU module and fan module 3d printed thanks to a kind individual who uploaded files for them (I am sorry, I forget who that was, I am the worst), and so on.

I have a second ssd installed with windows on it, which I can boot directly into or pass through into a VM in linux. I sound like a goofball here, but in case it is not obvious, I am having a he** of a good time with this machine.

It is much less portable than the 13", but I still can throw it in a bag and drag it along with me if I need to. At this point it is my primary non-work machine, with the 13" standing by when needed.

If you need a nudge, go for it! If you find that you don’t like it you can return it or resell it. I will be happy to answer any questions that you might have. Have a great day!

Edit to add - if you decide to pick one up, you may want to try to confirm that it is using PTM rather than LM. They switched that about a month ago, so presumably a lot of units in invertory still have LM, depending upon the number that they keep in inventory.

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I’m gonna be a little controversial here and say no, don’t buy it. I think it can be argued that it goes against the ethos of Framework to buy laptops that you don’t actually need. In addition to the philosophical argument, I’d also add that yeah, the 16 is cool (I’m typing on one right now!), but is it that much cooler than a 13? I’d say not cooler enough to justify the cost without an actual need for the additional features or power. I’d instead say enjoy your 13, it’s pretty darn cool itself!

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I would suggest either giving your 13” Framework to a friend whose PC is reaching the end of its life to give them a machine which can last much longer than one that can’t be upgraded or easily repaired or give it to someone who would like to try using Linux on a computer whose manufacturer actually supports Linux or sell it to someone who can’t quite afford a Framework but could afford a used one and would really like to have one or sell it to one of the students or veterans who are asking for student or veteran discounts.

Any of those would also help to spread the “gospel” of user-repairable and user-upgradeable ecologically sound Framework computers.

If your 13” Framework uses an Intel cpu by getting the 16” Framework, you will be getting the advantages of the AMD Ryzen cpu.

If you want to use both Linux and Windows on your 16" Framework, that’s quite easy because you will have two M.2 NVMe sockets and you can install Linux on one of them and Windows on the other and easily switch between the two by booting up the NVMe drive which contains the OS you want to boot up and use. Or you could set up Windows in a Virtual Machine running on Linux.

Or, if you keep both the 13" and 16" Framework, you could put Linux on one of them and Windows on the other or just use one of them as your backup/spare computer so if one of them goes down with a hardware or severe software problem, you won’t be without a PC.

I have a couple of desktop PCs which I rotate periodically when a newer generation Ryzen APU comes out. I keep the older Ryzen desktop as a fall-back computer if I have a hardware failure and have to buy a replacement component or run into a software snag and need to have a PC available to use while I’m fixing the software problem.

Or, if you’re like me and only use Linux, you could have one Linux distro on one of the Frameworks and a different Linux distro that you’re trying out on the other one.

I have a friend who has two Linux PCs. One he uses online and one he never uses for online activities so he has even less risk of it being compromised.

So, those are a number of excuses and I’m sure there are more.

shia-la-beouf-just-do-it

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