I understand that some of this may be speculation (Partially due to not having even shipped out yet) since Intel has only officially acknowledged desktop CPU’s as being affected by this very large scale microcode issue, but I was wondering if anyone has any insight on whether or not this same issue would be present in Core Ultra chips? Especially given that the core ultra varient of the framework 13 may be shipping “soon” whether there would be any valid concern on this front or not?
Thanks in advance for sharing your insight I appreciate it!
Core Ultra Series 1 is a massive architectural change (IMO the biggest in well over a decade) compared to prior Intel generations. We don’t know for sure that it is unaffected, but it seems likely that it won’t be affected. It could of course have its own issues due to the major architectural change, which is always a risk with new architectures.
So far the issue seems contained to Raptor Lake desktop chips (most 13th gen and all 14th gen desktop chips) and Raptor Lake HX-series (which are chips that were designed for desktops but Intel decided to offer a laptop variant of), although the latter (HX-series being affected) has not been acknowledged by Intel and is based solely on community reports. I have not seen any reports of other Raptor Lake mobile chips (such as the P-series used in the Framework Laptop 13 with 13th gen Intel Core) being affected.
It’s unlikely they’d be affected by the identical microcode issue, as it’s a different architecture.
They are affected by the same “Made by Intel” issue though. I’d take their response to this mistake, project it forward to any future failures (mistakes happen, it’s inevitable and human), and make a decision based on whether or not you think this response is how you’d like to be treated.
Fool me once, and all that.
Been on a 14th gen Intel Ultra Platform for 3 months now for work. Zero issues. Running RHEL 9. They run cool and the battery life is greatly improved. The items that continue to sell me on Intel is all of the ancillary technologies that are intel proprietary. From chipsets to thunderbolt they continue to provide a compelling platform. If all you care about is CPU then yes go with AMD hands down. If a robust peripheral stack is something you already own and need go Intel. USB4 has proven to definitely not be TB4, and with TB5 around the corner I know where I land when it comes to laptops and in some use cases desktop form factors.
Also when it comes to corporate responses…I remember the AMD FX days very well. They tried hard to sell everyone on that pile of garbage. Always trust a company to only act in its short term self interest and you won’t be disappointed when they do exactly that.