I noticed this yesterday also. That makes me feel more confident that mine will ship in August as I am Batch 2. 
AMD 2.8K
I am very super extra excited for my first Framework. 
!!
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Not much of an update, we are simply consolidating the batch update posts under one thread this time on subreddit. We hope to start shipping pre-orders this month !
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I do too! I’m waiting on this to go to school. I’m scheduled to leave in Jan 2025, but can likely get into an October class. Hoping I can get this near the end of August so I can get it all ready to go.
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I saw a new FW 13 video from one of Linus’ channels. I was hoping it had the updates. I was hoping maybe they slipped something into the video that they weren’t supposed to. I didn’t notice anything. 
Josh asked some good questions:
With the way Nirav responded to the Snapdragon question…it’s in “monitoring” mode, it seems. We likely won’t a a Snapdragon offering until maybe the next round…if deemed viable for Framework.
With regard to the codec, EQ was briefly mentioned, does it mean / indicate Framework has now included a built-in tuned EQ?
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I think it simply means they’re using the DSP built into the Core Ultra chips instead of anything separate, which should primarily result in improved power efficiency.
Soooo… batch 1 is supposed to ship within the next two to three weeks and we’ve heard nothing since the initial announcement. Would be nice to get an update if this estimate will hold. If not, that’s fine too but with an investment over 1000€ I’d appreciate transparent communication.
We have started shipping the laptops with AMD mainboards today as well as the new display kits. The rest will follow soon, thanks for your patience!
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Review is live
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Hope to see some reviews of the 165H soon.
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I got charged for my display yesterday, waiting for it to be shipped now. I’m very keen.
So, I was thinking about the performance reviews so far.
- There’s no way that the Core Ultra Series 1 processors would be less efficient than previous Intel offerings. i.e energy required per given clock cycle.
- There’s no way that the IPC is worse, right?
Given 1 & 2: If the Core Ultra processor is given, say, 28w or 30w under sustained load like previous FL13, then we ought to see better performance.
I wonder if the (what I perceived as) somewhat lackluster performance benchmark is due to the power plan / profile tuning to aim for better battery runtime.
e.g. If we benchmark 1260p, 1360p and 155H against each other at 30W, the 155H should be the fastest one out of the lot. Yes, no?
Hum…what’s happening there with the Cinebench 24 multicore score? The max TDP seems low…does it need some LTT PTM7950?
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I use Upsiren PCM-1, it is actually a degree or two better and it is cheap as hell direct from the manufacturer.
Or Framework decided to release a dud and no tinkering will make a difference. Edit: Just watched the gimped TDP.
I ordered 125H model instead of upper model becase following reason:
- framework is not quick , you usually get something 1 generation behind newest ( ultra 200 incoming , 100 was on users hand for while . Amd zen5 AI 300 / zen4 8000 is already selling. while we still waiting for ultra 100 to ship )
- framework module design limited how much resource ( space ) they can spend on cooling,and how robust VRM they can fit on the board
- intel is power hungry when all cores load ,not like AMD. E-core on intel was space saving but they can slip lots of power ( 12900K first gen 8 E core can slip like 50W , n305 8 cores SOC need about 35-40W to full load ). 125H 4+8 might not get enough power for full burst , so dont think about 155H and 185H
Just save some money and get new board like few years later , 155/185H is not worth the price as its performance limited by power rail and cooling (although single core still shines but nowdays you got muliple stuff run at same time) , yep we are 1 generation behind the industry standard/ what selling on shelf.
so… purchase framework is for longterm and liked the idea
if looking for high performance or performance/cost ratio there are way more better option.
p.s. there is no future proof especially in computer world , newer is always quicker and better (except some fail stuff like early intel P4 which slower then P3 in IPC , or AMD faildozer) . So i rarely use this terms
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I mostly agree with what you’re writing and I also went with the 125H and would rather put the money towards a mainboard upgrade in the future. I also think this is where the Core Ultra Framework shines. The 125H not as much of a downgrade compared to the 155H (7/8th of the GPU cores, 2 fewer P cores) as the 7640U is compared to the 7840U (2/3rds of the GPU cores, 2 fewer cores).
Still, the 155H will be faster even with the same power limits, as for one the binning will be better (it’s the higher tier part) and also for multi core workloads 2 more P cores help quite a bit, even if each individual core has a slightly lower power budget. Comparing power consumption to a top-tier desktop CPU (12900K) doesn’t really make sense as its power limits and thermal limits are very different.
So, for me personally (and for you), the 125H makes a lot of sense, but for others who want maximum performance (and also efficiency, thanks to slightly better binning) on an Intel Framework, the 155H and 165H also be a good choice.
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It’s just so odd that Framework’s 155H isn’t even in the middle of the pack this year. If you rule out the 16 inch devices from the list below, Framework’s 155H scored 13247. That’s seems to be quite far behind from the leading pack of 14inch devices like the Thinkpad P14s, RedmiBook Pro 14, Omen Transcend 14, Matebook 14…etc.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-Ultra-7-155H-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.783323.0.html
Historically, with the 11th gen intel board, Framework could boost to 60+ watts. (Mine could reach 62.5w under Canadian winter condition). i.e. The power rail handled it. Did Framework lowered the boost / power rail capability for this generation of boards?
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