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I like it. Now if only the background color matched the laptop or was clear. That’s not a big deal though since it’ll be covered most of the time. That top left one being crooked bothers me though. 
yeah well it was the first one i applied it kinda bothers me but in all honesty will only bother me when/if i need to replace the module lol…i used the labels i had. and as you said its covered up most of the time.
The DP/USB3 Port however uses a ANX7493 redriver, which is listed as having support “for DisplayPort up to UHBR10”. (Source)
I haven’t seen any confirmation regarding if that port supports UHBR10 or not.
Yep. I don’t think any notebook on the market, Intel or AMD has ever advertised higher than HBR3 speeds for the iGPU, even though the CPUs are supposed to have supported it for a few generations.
If most current AMD notebooks had UHBR10, I’d use that chip as confirmation that it is supported here as well…
Btw, I have found another specs page of the Kandou ReTimers that says UHBR20 (10 and 20 at least would make sense as that is basically just USB4 signaling with all 4 lanes in 1 direction). So there might be firmware updates or revisions of that chip that also would support UHBR10.
But also, we have seen that AMD’s public specs are not that reliable (and they are not detailed, so they are not what is actually used for development & manufacturers). After all, with the ECC DRAM thing, FW was questioned a lot if that would be sth. that is possible. And shortly after FW told us it was not supported by AMD, AMD changed the public specs to also say the same, after they had been up for a long time. So I kind of do not trust just those public specs, if no manufacturer has ever implemented it.
That might just be marketing for AMD, but not actually “supported” for any manufacturer for whatever reason.
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I also noticed that on Framework’s schematics they do list “DP2.0”. To me that implies at least UHBR10, although I don’t know if DisplayPort 2.0 actually requires that or if it can be implemented with just HBR3.
Also, TechPowerUp seems to claim that the processors only support DP 1.4a over the USB4 ports.
Overall there seems to be a lot of conflicting data. The only way to know for sure is probably for someone to plug it into a monitor that supports UHBR10 or greater and see what it runs at.
It does not. As with most other protocols. DP 2.0 does not guarantee almost anything. Hence it should not be used to advertise a port (unless explicitly accompanied by “full support of all DP 2.0 features”).
Vesa’s stance has been a bit more nuanced, where they say manufacturers may only advertise / spec the number, if at least any feature that was added with that version is supported. But you probably could not count the schematic of the board as “advertising”.
Whereas the other standards (HDMI, USB for example) take more the stance, the newest version replaces the older versions completely and immediately, the older version does not exist and so none of the features are required. Ports simply have to follow the newest specification no matter what they support. And it is forbidden to use the spec number as if it meant anything (though most manufacturers violate that heavily).
I.e. the “USB 3.2” right next to the DP 2.0, by its very definition is pretty worthless. And indicates only that it is USB3, which can range from 5 Gbps to 20 Gbps. It is basically only an acknowledgement that the board was designed after USB 3.2 came out and looking at the current PDF file while designing it.
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I’ve made some labels in Onshape (when you have a hammer…). I’m picking up some laser label paper, and will test them out once I have my framework.
edit: A few tweaks,
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You can attach thunderbolt devices to the usb4 ports and they will work.
I have 2 different thunderbolt devices and they both work in the AMD FW16, but only in port 1 and 4.
It depends on the device and which specific thunderbolt features it uses. USB4 is an open standard of Thunderbolt 3, where most features are optional (and without Intel’s certification requirements.)
AMD, so far has pretty much kept pace with Intel’s abilities / TB4 requirements. And because of Windows’ requirements any USB4 host capable of running Windows will be TB3 compatible and have PCIe tunneling for the foreseeable future. Only amount and capability of DP connections and PCIe bandwidth could be less. Even Qualcomm has 2 HBR3 DP tunnels. I just don’t know of their PCIe bandwidth.
Asmedia for their own Host controller has matched / surpassed TB4 requirements.
There is just no name for that label of functionality that is not tied to Intel and its certification. I often say “TB4 level”, but that is not an option for manufacturers.
Will be interesting to see future controllers. Because Intel is in the progress to upgrade to 3 DP tunnels (with TB5, but also with new TB4 controllers). So anybody that wants to make use of new TB hubs will also need those 3 tunnels.
But with Intel leaving out the middle DP UHBR speed, there is also more room to differentiate…
I got my framework and did a small arts and crafts project.
I will probably reprint port 1s sticker, since it got pulled off and reapplied a few times.
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3 and 6 ports only supply up to 4.5W and may not compatible to all USB 3.2 devices, how about adding the power rating there as well
Interestingly, the ports are numbered differently in the BIOS.
sensors |grep USBC
ucsi_source_psy_USBC000:001-isa-0000 ← Back Right
ucsi_source_psy_USBC000:002-isa-0000 ← Middle Right
ucsi_source_psy_USBC000:003-isa-0000 ← Middle Left
ucsi_source_psy_USBC000:004-isa-0000 ← Back Left
I don’t know where USBC port 5 and 6 are.
I think usci is to do with supplying USB power, that only works on 4 of the 6 ports of the FW16.
I would just have been nice if the BIOS has numbered them that same as the web page.
I did not know that. I’ll update that and replace those two as well. I am getting access to a Cricut, so I’m waiting for that before I print again.
Those stickers look great.
Framework should offer stickers like that.
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If I put them up on my etsy, what do you think I should charge for them?
Has anyone worked out what capabilities the USB ports have?
For example, Port 1 and 4 are USB4, but is that USB4-10, USB4-20, USB4-40 ?
I think it might be USB4-10 with USB4’s version of Thunderbolt 3 or maybe even Thunderbolt 4.
I.e. 10Gbps in USB mode, 40Gbps (32 real) in PCIe transport mode.
And the other ports are maybe USB 3.2 10Gbps and USB2.
Hard for me to say. It really depends on how much time & effort they take for you to make. And how valuable your spear time is.
Are they hand cut, or perhaps you own or have access to a laser cutter?
These were hand cut. Vynle is not good to cut with lasers, but I am getting access to a cricut, and if I find it works well I may pick up my own. I sell some 3d printed things I’ve designed, I just don’t know what stickers go for, so I was starting the process of market research 
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