I am interested to know what the minimum power draw of the framework desktop is when idle (doing nothing, but network connected and ready to process AI tasks, etc.).
I’d like to figure out how much it will cost to keep this running all the time for periodic AI/ML compute.
I would like to know this information as well. Given that mini PCs are hard to measure between different models, we might not have solid information until units are being tested by people who have purchased.
Speculating: The Flow Z13 has an idle power consumption of 10.4W in a portable package.
I think you can expect at least that at idle.
This review says sleep power draw of 2W, and idle power draw of 11w, which sounds great to me - ~0.26 kWh/day, ~96kWh/yr idle baseline:
“For individual nodes, sleep power draw is around 2W, idle power draw 11W, and full-bore, it’ll pull around 150W. It goes into a higher turbo boost momentarily but will settle in around 145-155W for extended maxed-out benchmarks, at least on the CPU side. All my measurements were done at the wall and while running Fedora 42 (or in some cases, Rawhide, the in-development version of Fedora).”
Oh wow i am SO looking forwards to this PC…
For context my current PC idles at 120-150W
I’ll try to post a link directly to the 1:18 mark of the Level 1 Techs linux review:
He says “It idles about 10 watts, technically as low as 7 with idle power management”
I only run “powertop –auto-tune” at boot on my TrueNAS Scale server at home, but that little MSI mini PC idles at 4.7 to 5.0 watts as a result. Linux is amazingly power efficient on laptop-based hardware. So I think @rabidfurball will be in a good place and probably want to run linux for a 24x7 server with powertop running at boot.
7 watts at idle is amazing for a 128GB DDR5-8000 system with 5gbE networking and everything you get with the Framework Desktop. I plan to run mine as a Windows server for a while but my plan is to eventually replace my current Proxmox server with my Framework Desktop, so that potential for 7w at idle is very welcome.
With this kind of power usage, maybe I can justify replacing my existing homelab hardware with a bunch of these!