They absolutely have to do with build quality, it’s been addressed in numerous places, including the reviews the selves, the spacers are supposed to have less gap, be flatter, a bunch of stuff, they have a whole bullet list of things they fixed, and it’s literally every single thing except the keyboard, and they addressed that here
Just a note on this one. The keyboard mechanical parts are actually the same ones as the Framework Laptop 13. That is, the key caps and scissor mechanism come off of the same tooling. What we saw LTT call out specifically was flexibility in the mid plate resulting in keyboard deflection. We’re digging into this, because the feedback we’ve heard from our testers and most other reviewers was otherwise similar to what we’ve heard on Framework Laptop 13, which is positive.
I noted this in another comment, but we are committed to finding the root cause of what LTT saw, and if we determine it was not an issue unique to that unit, to make sure we deliver on fixing it for both future production and any units we’ve already shipped.
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This is exactly the sort of update I love to see, thanks for addressing these issues so directly!
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We always offer review units to Phoronix because of how thorough their Linux reviews are. A couple of other reviewers like Andrew at Ars Technica usually test on Linux as well, but Phoronix goes deep.
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Yes, we actually have foam blocks that are adhered on both the Mainboard side and the underside of the Mid Plate for rigidity, and we chose these specifically because they aren’t thermally conductive. We are digging into the LTT feedback though to understand what they experienced on their unit and make sure we can resolve it if it wasn’t unique to that unit.
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It never fails to impress me how transparent the FW team is, I absolutely love it! I expected these things from the update email you guys sent out before which is why I am definitely going to be waiting to get mine in hand to make my own decision
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The display is indeed 100% DCI-P3, and other reviewers like Notebookcheck were able to measure that: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Radeon-RX-7700S-performance-debut-Framework-Laptop-16-review.790807.0.html#toc-4
In initial OS image that was on the press units, the color profile for DCI-P3 wasn’t present, and we had to provide it as part of an updated Driver Bundle. We found that for some of the reviewers though, applying the color profile didn’t work. This is something we don’t expect to occur on customer units, since the OS image for pre-built units comes with the color profile, and for DIY Edition it will come through the initial Driver Bundle installation.
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yeah that kinda threw me off especially because that one review from Dave2D from an earlier DVT unit actually had a lot of praise for the keyboard especially so I’m thinking this was probably a one off on the LTT review unit but definitely worth investigating
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Hey, if we can live up to Steam Deck, I’m willing to call that a win (though obviously we want to start out less bumpy).
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Thanks. We always want to hear how we can do better. We read every review and as many comments as we can, and we use that to understand what we need to do and what information we need to share.
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None of what they mentioned in the reviews really surprised me or deterrs me from my preorder as an enthusiast. The only thing that might actually bother me is the complaints about the keyboard, as i plan to be authoring a book on my framework… but they also say its better than my razers keyboard so I know ill be able to manage. It just might not be as nice as my thinkpads.
Im very please so far with what I’m seeing about battery life though.
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I hope there are plans to bring the dci-p3 profile to linux in the future.
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I was worried after first seeing the reviews, but I don’t see any reason to cancel my batch 4 order. Still extremely excited to get my unit!
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We found that an “off the shelf” DCI-P3 profile actually fits the panel pretty well. I can’t remember whether it just worked out of the box in Linux or whether we needed to provide additional steps in our setup guides to get it working.
Edit: It seems the color profile should get loaded automatically off of the EDID, but you may need to do additional work to have applications take advantage of wide color gamut.
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I was honestly disappointed by the Phoronix review. Nothing in his review that wasn’t known pretty much known ahead of time.
Have been reading or viewing pretty much all reviews now … my conclusion is that FW has done a good job.
Looking forward for my FW 16 (batch 6)!
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It would be really awesome if Framework 16 supports Coreboot in the near future. Like, System76. Looking forward to buying this laptop soon.
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The reviews are disappointing. I won’t cancel. I’ll wait to see the reviews from the first buyers.
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I’m happy to read that a lot of issue are fixed on the consumers units 
And no doubt the software problems will belong to the past soon, we’ve seen what Framework is capable of.
So, congrats!
My main remaining concern is about the screen. I read that there are profiles to use in order to reach the promised color coverage, but what about the uniformity and the backlight bleeding issues measured by notebookcheck? Can it really be used for a serious photography or art work?
My experience as a photographer : the 13" is clearly too small, the 16" screen size would be fine, but with those reviews, I hesitate to keep my preorder. I suppose that other specialized users will hesitate too : still according to the reviews, the audio is poor, the gaming is ok but behind alienware and some other high-end gaming laptop, the 16/9 screen format is also not ideal for coding…
I have the feeling that the FW 16 is good for a general use, but will miss the possibility of the more specialized customers. So my question is : can we expect high-quality components to make the laptop more “specialized”, within the DYI or marketplace, even if it raises the price? At least for the basic parts…
I think the modularity of the FW16 would be a perfect base for that kind of application. But what’s the point of a photo edition input module (let’s imagine a few basic sliders to change the exposition, contrast and other basic stuff quickly) without a screen that competes with the macbooks or asus pro-art laptops?
EDIT : I tend to think I’m wrong about the quality of the IPS, when reading the reviews. I probably gave too much credits to the measures from notebookcheck compared to my desktop screen.
But I still think an OLED option would be much appreciated
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Ah, ok. That doesn’t sound to bad then, at least it’s not a binary “profile vs no profile” distinction then. Thanks for the info
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