With the reviews finally dropping, I want to see how the community reacts to them. Is everything exactly as you wanted it, perhaps even better? Or did you already cancel your preorder 
And what are the biggest surprises?
Considering canceling my preorder. Iām weighing customizabilty vs. the build quality. Easier to fix but is it more likely to break? Will I still like size, feel and build in 7 to 10 years.
Honestly the biggest complaintās Iāve heard about in reviews sound like the issues that Framework has already been addressing. Iām impressed by what appears to be a jump in build quality from the earlier pictures we got of some of those components compared to what I see in the reviews though.
Iām definitely keeping my preorder, nothing was a dealbreaker for me, afaict, the inconsistent thermal issues are related to the known issues with preproduction coolers that Nirav has previously talked about, and the keyboard flex seemed subjective and isnāt a big deal to me. I mostly am curious to see frameworkās response in a couple of days.
Considering cancelling as well. 2-3k is a lot of money to spend on a laptop. Hoping that the points presented in the reviews are fixed by the time my batch rolls around is an expensive hope.
Safest assumption would be to assume what we get delivered is what the reviewers were given.
I still have issues with my FW13, so Iām idk reluctant to repeat that.
After reading a few reviews I went from being excited about the FW16 to being really on the fence. I understand thereās a tradeoff for the upgradeability and the repairability. Generally thatās a tradeoff Iām willing to make. Iām keeping my preorder for now, but Iām going to be keeping a close eye on the early batches to see what people are saying. If FW addresses the issues relatively quickly Iāll keep my batch 16 preorder for sure, but if not Iāll have some thinking to do. Overall Iām honestly a bit disappointed with the reviews Iāve seen so far, but Iām still hopeful that things will get better.
I am very disappointed with the general reviews of the keyboard, I expected better, especially with the Framework 13 keyboard being good.
A lot of people in the framework community are tech-focused and mainly almost exclusively use their keyboard.
I can live with the panel flex and the speakers being sub-par, but the keyboard is a major deal-breaker if not addressed, especially at this price point. Iām pretty disappointed 
Edit: Iām definitely keeping my pre-order though, Iām confident, that it will still turn out great
Reviews are pretty much as I expected. Some unsurprising issues, given that they said ahead of time that they were still in the process of solving several, known issues when they sent the units off to reviewers. Some slight disappointments and some promising results as well. Overall, nothing about the reviews is making me question my pre-order.
Unfortunately, other things in my life are making me consider cancelling. I donāt really NEED it, and that money could go toward a new office chair and a couple other things instead. For some reason, cancelling the pre-order feels like backing out on a deal, plus I do think it will ultimately be a really cool machine. Decisions, decisions, lol.
The reviews arenāt as glowing as I expected, but overall still quite good. Iām seeing some disappointment with gaming performance, but I am getting it as a development machine and desktop workstation replacement, so that doesnāt concern me.
Honestly the negative aspect of the reviews mostly center around price vs performance, and I donāt think most of us expected the FW16 to shine in that regard. Reviewers saying you can get more performance for less money elsewhere, which we already knew, probably shouldnāt come as a surprise. I want a modular and upgradable laptop, and thatās what Iām paying for and the FW16 excels at that.
Iām still pumped to get mine soon. I am a little disappointed in the flexibility of the display, but thatās about it.
Overall about what I expected, a little dissapointed in the keyboard flex but the quick mod shown in the LTT video seems reasonable.
Iām keeping my pre-order because my current personal laptop is nearing a decade of service, and needs replaced. Iāve used a friendās FW13 before and itās just too small for me, so the FW16 is the obvious choice, especially since I like messing and tinkering and upgradeability.
Not concerned, keeping my batch 1 preorder. I expect some issues that may or may not be resolved, and am fine with that. I have a batch one and batch 6(?) or so 11th gen 13" Framework machines, that had some issues, but that eventually were resolved to my satisfaction. Others may have a different opinion. The batch 1 has been my daily driver since I received it and I still love it.
For me, Iām not too concerned. Reviewers basically got final validation machines, not early mass production. So most of the things Iām pretty confident are fixed, from a hardware perspective, for the mass production units.
Software side, Iām feeling OK, although sounds like the first few batches will be a little rough on the UEFI/drivers side of things. Iām confident theyāll be ironed out.
One aspect that I was hoping was better was runtime (without dGPU), but itās sufficient for me. Looking forward to hopefully having a battery expansion module on the back thatāll give a boost for an extra couple of hours.
Quite concerned, but almost entirely about the build quality issues, specifically about the lid flex. Keyboard seems like an easy enough fix, thermals are the price one pays and also already partly fixed. Iām in batch 11, so I finally get to wait and watch. Massively disappointed in the 7700Sās RT performance, but thatās what its being an expansion bay is for, yeah? Not Frameworkās fault anyway. I was just hoping AMD would get better with it.
I was hoping this thing could beat top-end stuff from Asus and Appleā¦.too innocent for meā¦.still expecting to having my fw16 though. Hope it could beat MacBook Pro and zephyrs 16 later.
I am thinking of replacing my Framework 16 or Framework 13. I do not see reasons to get 16.
I waited 16" because of better performance and better screen/keyboard. The screen is not 4K (and DPI is too low for 16"), keyboard is worse than 13, performance is only 5% bigger than in 13".
So I think 13" will fit me better.
They did say, that they are intended to by like the consumer devices they will be shipping out. There were a few issues, that they have since fixed, but none of them have to do with the build quality or keyboard. Check their most recent email.
Well, itās not the expansion bay so much, as simply AMD GPU. Itāll be really interesting in the next year or two if they come out with updated AMD & Nvidia dGPUs of similar generation. Compare them head to head in a laptop, like we can in desktops.
For me I am willing to bite the cost of the machine. Itās their first 16 in model. Sure I can get similar performance from less expensive laptops but they come with the hit on repairability.I will keep my pre order and use it as my Linux machine. I would like to see how it fares in compared with my 16ā MacBook Pro & my Asus M16. I will have the trinity of OS 
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Edit: Just wanted to add that F16 from my perspective is absolutely great. You can easily swap the keyboard & trackpad. Their internals are easily upgradable and they have a freaking swappable GPU. The shear amount of engineering to have the laptop with this amount of modularity 
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All I meant is that the expansion bay means swapping stuff is a total piece of cake, and thatās beyond satisfying. I do want to see those comparisons, though. I frankly doubt Nvidia dGPUs will come around any time soon, but weāll see.
Iām actually a little bit bummed out by the reviews. I have daily driven a batch 5 11th gen i5 FW13 since I received it, and I feel like I might be better off upgrading it to the 7840 and upgrading my desktop graphics than getting a gaming laptop that only does so well.
I think Iāll wait until batch 2 or 3 goes out to make a final decision (Iām in batch 6), but I canāt say Iām fully impressed to the tune of $2500. I know the 7700S will outperform my aging rx 580 desktop, but Iām not sure I can justify getting a second Framework.
That said, I do really wish my FW13 was bigger.