HP has quite a broad selection of devices. I don’t like their Pavilion or Envy lineups, although Envy has gotten some good credit lately. Pavilion is still garbage now and 10 years ago.
Yet new Spectre line is pretty awesome, besides having glossy screen (I think that has to do with the OLEDs that are a new thing). I personally have ProBook and it had all the goods that I was looking for from different standpoints. Biggest downside is a shitty display, matte nonetheless.
EliteBooks would be step up from ProBooks if you have deeper pockets. When I got my current ProBook back in 2014, I did extensive research among all major brands, and that just fit all the requirements. Yet I barely ever even see anyone mention their ProBook series.
HP printers on the other hand… I wish I could beat each of them into molecules with a baseball bat. More than once I wanted to throw their shitty printer out of 3rd floor window, just to hold myself back as it wasn’t my own property. Never ever would I have an HP printer.
Yeah, I mostly take jabs at them for some of their older desktops. I haven’t touched any of their newer desktops yet, but the older ones flat out refused to boot with any aftermarket GPU. It was disgusting. Hopefully it’s better now and I can start to rec them again but maaaan, that really left a bad taste in my mouth.
and yeah, HP printers are gross. I just print stuff on the brother or xerox at work
I don’t really know about their desktops, only have used laptops in the home office category (Notebooks, ProBooks). Could be that the desktops go hand in hand with their printers, lol.
Here to actually add my +1 to a dedicated matte screen option, in fact replacing the current glossy ones.
The process for installing my ViaScreens matte film was a nightmare even though the company tried to make it easy as possible. They sent me two protectors and I ended up messing up the first one. I still have dust bubbles in it that I’d rather not deal with because peeling back the screen to clean them up with a sticker is just going to create more anyway.
Does your matte screen protector completely blur your reflection or is it supposed to only reduce glare? I can’t really tell the difference before and after I added the protector with the screen turned off, but I haven’t tried using it in direct light yet. I can live with the protector just eliminating direct light but I just want to confirm I didn’t get sent the wrong one
Yeah, mine is subtle, for sure. It doesn’t eliminate glare, but softens it a bunch. If I had to guess I’d say it’s a ~33% reduction. I opted to go lightly in case it had some effect on sharpness, but it doesn’t make a noticeable change in that regard.
Does the 13.5" Surface screen have the same dimensions as Framework? Was there any trimming involved?
Did you get the ‘Matte’, or the ‘Matte Lite’? The descriptions on the site are not great, and I’m not sure which one is better for me. When I use ‘compare products’, I get this:
Surface Finish: Matte (Matte) vs Silky (Matte Lite)
Surface Hardness: 3H (Matte) vs 2H (Matte Lite)
Layer Thickness: 0.13 mm (Matte) vs 0.11 (Matte Lite)
Transparency: 98% (Matte) vs 95% (Matte Lite)
Smudge Resistance: 5/5 (Matte) vs 4/5 (Matte Lite)
I assume ‘Matte Lite’ is an in-between finish - more reflective than the ‘Matte’, but also allows more light through and doesn’t distort the image as much. I’m leaning towards just buying both and seeing which one looks better.
Definitely remove the bezel. The protector will be just slightly smaller in each dimension than the panel. Center it up and it’ll end up just a hair inside of the bezel when you’re done.
And I agree on the matte. That’s what I got and it’s great.
Here’s the upper left corner of mine. Very small gap around the edge between the protector and the bezel. It’s a little smaller on the right side, since I was just a bit off in centering the protector. It’s visible, but as a practical matter, it’s not noticable during normal use.
And yes, I got one dust fleck under the upper corner there. Happened when I tried to peel the protective layer off after installing. The layer didn’t want to peel, and it brought the protector with it. Didn’t feel like fighting with it to get rid of one tiny speck in the corner.
@xanekka Here’s a gif showing the screen on, and moving through some angles. You can see that where there is a colorful background, there isn’t much noticable glare. On a black screen area, there’s still a visible reflection, but it’s not bad at all to my eyes.
A recommendation I use to combat dust when applying screen protectors for phones:
Do it in the bathroom with the door closed and the shower running with hot water to build up steam/humidity. This will cause dust/particles to fall to the floor.
Also, I plan on ordering a matte screen protector at some time, so here’s a thanks to everyone that’s recommended/tested/etc.!
I used to thoroughly clean my devices and then do my applications in my past workplace’s molecular cleanroom gowning booth during off hours (technically not a violation of cleanroom protocol!), but last time I was in that building was four years ago so it’s no longer feasible, lol.
