@David_Eastham Thanks a lot for the feedback.
Your Atreus post is actually in my references for this project.
The physical format is based on the Charybdis, which I daily drive and am more familiar with.
It is hard to see without the key caps being installed, but the keys are actually rotated 6 degrees inward, for a more comfortable position, similarly to the Atreus.
I swapped out my keyboard, so have an extra one lying around. If you tell me how to go about measuring, I can give it a go.
Maybe there’s already a post about this, but I really wish for a “standard” Windows keyboard where all cursor keys are the same size : 
Since there are also a lot of Linux users, it would also make sense from my point of view to release a keyboard without a Windows logo, or with a Mac layout as an alternative.
Still hoping for more language keyboards. I want Russian. Using something like FW is supposed to be better for the long-tail customer, yes? Well, here I am. :–)
Since there will never be a keyboard that reflects my evolving customization, I’d like a keyboard with blank modifier keys (caps, shift, ctrl, win, alt) but every other key still printed.
Would love to see a simple 15x5 ortholinear keyboard module. The problem I’m seeing with all the projects I’ve seen is they all prioritize columnar stagger rather than rows of keys. I have a great deal of trouble typing on a 4 (or less) row board and feel like the option for a full grid and customization of layout would allow for enough keys for anybody and alternate covers could block keys to make for smaller layouts. (12x5 with 2 columns separating the halves or other options)
I am popping in to see if there have been developments on the keyboard choice.
I would be happy to see a grid format. Whilst I have advocated for the Atreus, the QWERTY (ugh!) layout could be very easily applied to an ortholinear format and thus test a market for different physical formats. I am a little disappointed thus far that different keyboard formats have not been made available yet.
Even if the first off-the-peg “ergonomic” keyboard option was not appealing to me, such a development would test latent demand - especially if it were a factory option - and give grounds for optimism that there will be other formats available. As it is I am left waiting for other, much more complex features with less real-world utility, like ARM processors, to provide a compelling reason to upgrade from my intel MacBook.
Making available a range of ergonomic keyboard modules seem ideally suited to Framework’s intention to encourage a lively marketplace for components, as people can try different formats and layouts without having to commit to a new laptop. If they don’t get on with a format they can sell the module on to somebody else and try another or go back to ANSI/ISO. This is not possible (certainly not supported) with any other laptop.
A short run of ergo keyboard modules could be used to trial new technologies that might be relevant for future products, like the new range of ultra-low mechanical key switches for laptop, from Omron or Cherry.
Will there be Simplified Chinese WuBi layout keyboard? I noticed that FW released a CangJie/Zhuyin layout keyboard,I wish FW can consider about WuBi, because there is quite a lot people from China mainland using WuBi input.
As a programmer and gamer the up and down arrow keys are important for me, while the right shift key is rarely ever used, so I really don’t understand why the choice was made to have such a big right shift key and cram the up and down arrow keys into one. Together with the hated windows key, its the only thing I’d change about the keyboard. I would order a new one if you fix those two things.
(I am a Java programmer and use Fedora. I avoid M$ like the plague, so a Windows key on my beloved Framework laptop feels like an eyesore and has to go.)
One way to solve this is to make a custom key through Framework, like Tuxedo Computers does. Not necessarily as a standart on keyboards but like a keyboard variant with any image you want on the windows key (like the ubuntu, fedora or arch logo on the key). It would add a lot more customisation to the laptop.
Sure it would not be used by much so it could be a special quote to make so it could be good to ask for community feedback before going into production.
Still waiting for you to throw a bone to the left handed, and give us real arrow keys. You won’t get an order from me until you do…
Another vote for better arrow keys and page up, page down. Thinkpads are the way to do it.
Squeezed down arrow keys frankly just suck. And they influence buying decisions.
The only thing that stops me is that there is currently no Swiss keyboard layout. I have to write in German, French and English all the time and this keyboard layout is mandatory for a new device. Is there anything forseeable in the pipeline for this layout?
You’re in luck! They are currently working on a Swiss keyboard, as well as others.
Do you have updated news? Because if you mean “coming soon in the marketplace” - that’s been like that almost from day 1.
The thread I linked. They are verifying the layouts. I think it gives indication that they are closer to manufacture than just reading “coming soon ™”
If you want an ETA you’re free to go to the thread and ask nrp.
Here’s a similar thread from 10 months ago:
Still “coming soon”.
Like vesicant, Roman and etc, I’m still kinda stuck with a laptop that is starting to show it’s age. In my case it’s a Lenovo Yoga 3 1470 from 2015.
So a 75% layout definitely has a demand.
Rupert_Woods had a nice idea for the FN key.
I don’t know how reliable the FN toggle is on the controllers used by framework, but I do know that it bugged the hell out of me when I was given a HP for work and that damn FN toggle would always reset to the “useless” media-keys mode on each and every reboot. (And this is across multiple different units, 6 of them. There is a way to toggle this through software but half the time that doesn’t work on HP in my experience)
In a perfect world, we could have both of these options, but the 75% is probably more useful 
The Swiss version is a bit weird as the lettering for the mutated vowels only shows the lowercase variants, twice. It would be nicer if it actually showed lowercase & uppercase mutated vowels:
Current version (Request: Review of Norwegian, Portuguese, Swedish, Swiss, Slovenian, Thai, Hungarian, and Danish keyboards - #5 by nrp)
èè üü éé öö àà ää
Should be:
èÈ üÜ éÉ öÖ àÀ äÄ
So I’m debating wether picking up a Framework 13 or 16, but still won’t buy until I see the Spanish keyboards available.
When will that happen? Been following the forums and marketplace for a couple months and there hasn’t been a single update on dates.
