[TRACKING] Genode & Sculpt OS

Hi @David_Eastham ,

we did not yet include the Framework in the official list as we are not there yet. This is mostly because of the Intel Gen12 upgrade we want to support before this step. But, we are working on this in our free time and also ogle the Ethernet expansion card as it’s our daily use case to plug into LAN. Nevertheless, the Gen11 board worked great for some less simple tests in the past, except an annoying issue with the PS/2 emulation for the touchpad that materializes now and then.

Greets,
Christian

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Is anyone still monitoring this thread? I’d like to update the state of Sculpt OS on the Framework laptop as quite operational and in daily use by one of our main developers on Gen 12. A missing piece in the official release is a native driver for the I2C-attached touchpad and we still rely on PS/2 emulation. But, we have a functional prototype in the works and could release a specialized system image for Framework if there’s interest.

You may read more about the fresh Sculpt 23.10 release at genode.org

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I’m not a Framework employee, but I would refer you to the Framework knowledgebase article on the topic. Officially Supported vs Compatible Community Supported Linux Distributions

The Framework Linux Support team is quite small (currently a total of 2 people). They’re focusing on Ubuntu and Fedora for officially supported distros because they need to keep that list small enough that they can constantly evaluate it.

Even the community supported list is unlikely imo. For one thing, while I don’t have specific information on it, I would think a fully-functional touchpad would be a requirement as it makes a huge difference to the user experience. Also, even for the community-supported distros on that list, Framework maintains install guides (updated periodically) and occasionally tests to ensure functionality, which is time consuming and likely not worth it for such a niche OS.

If you’re interested in showing the OS’s compatibility and making it easy for people to use Sculpt OS, I encourage you to create a guide thread here on the forums, like the ones that the community has made for OpenSUSE, Debian, Nix and Arch

Other useful reading: Neutrality in the Framework Support Linux Expectations Guide - #7 by Matt_Hartley

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Nothing to add short of reaffirm what Morpheus indicated above. Neat project, certainly interesting as a community project should anyone wish to test it against their Framework 13 Laptop.

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I am finding that it works very well on my old Asus S400C, with the trackpad and wifi working nicely.

I will have to play with the CPU core frequency and power monitor sometime, but for now you can see I even managed to load the Framework homepage on the browser!



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Do you have plans for a Discourse forum (i.e. like this one) or Discord server? Reddit allows superficial comments on official communications and Genodians posts, and I understand there is a mailing list, but I think something in-between is required for creating wider community. I am a regular on that of another non-unix OS, the Haiku Discourse, and find it pleasantly lively.

Even for the relatively unskilled enthusiast, the graphical configuration screen of Sculpt does offer promise to make setup of complex things quite easy, and I look forward to playing with it more.

We had a forum on Sourceforge ages ago that was deserted for years, so we shut it down. Later, we organized Genodians.org and the Reddit channel. Currently, I don’t see any ambitions in the core team to adopt other community tools beyond Reddit, GitHub, and the mailing list, because the existing channels demand quite an amount of our attention.

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I agree that Genodians is a great resource, but I never really “got” Reddit.

As a comment, I find the colour palette used in Genode rather “cold” with a lot of blue and grey. Haiku for instance feels a lot “warmer” and more welcoming with its bright colours. There are also more concerns nowadays about the affect of blue light on mood and sleep patterns.

Nothing to add, just changing the status to tracking.

The last blog post discussing the ins and out of the new Sculpt on various hardware is most interesting. The Framework is of course of most relevance to this forum, especially the implications of core power management on battery life and fan noise. But porting to NMT reform shows that you guys are ready for when Framework release an ARM mainboard, which will not be long now I hope.

Talking of NMT reform, I really like the little Pocket Reform model, its so cute! And please take note of that sleep-friendly warm orange hue on both the key backlighting and text interface in this pic!

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This sounds extremely interesting!

We think so too, but we have to be patient for at least another 4 months…

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I see that there is now a Discourse forum (i.e. the same style forum as this one) for Genode. I am sure that community will not mind me inviting those of us running Sculpt on our Frameworks to introduce ourselves there.

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