As subject - most of the time, but not always, there’s a high pitched whine coming from the left side of the laptop. “Coil” type whine, I’d say. It does not vary with fan speed.
Anyone else had this? know what causes it?
Have you read up on similar topics, to try and rule out some ides, else it’s difficult to converse on such a short post.?
It might not seem like it matter, but what OS are you running?
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Have you read up on similar topics
Yes. I searched before posting, and did not find an answer.
It might not seem like it matter, but what OS are you running?
Current Debian, with XFCE.
Well again you say very little about what you have done.
So you say there was no ‘answer’ but what did you do as each issue is always slightly different and although you may have tried something that didn’t work, was there anything that made any difference?
Or have you only read the topics and not tried anything ?
- So where on the left side?
- have you tried disconnecting the audio board?
- What have you found on the left?
- Did you look at the breakdown guides to see what component (s) could provide a whine?
And have you primarily used Linux on there? I ask because this could be a driver thing in the kernel.
I am on Windows primarily and my 12th gen is 2 years 4 months old and I have no such whine. There isn’t enough to speculate on meaningfully, but I am curious how the kernel provisions certain components in contrast with Windows. Not much help for you now though.
Is it possible for you to pull a more current kernel from backports or the trixie repo and try with it?
So where on the left side?
Toward the screen, rather than the front of the laptop.
have you tried disconnecting the audio board?
No. This does not seem at all like a speaker-generated sound.
Did you look at the breakdown guides to see what component (s) could provide a whine?
No. It’s reasonable to think someone else has had this problem, and it’s much quicker to ask and get an answer than trial and error and experimentation to find it out from first principles.
The whine will not come from the speaker but from coils that maybe used to convert digital to analogue.
That’s questionable
Does it occur at dif speeds of cpu or temps etc. ?
Please try and give some detail on when it happens as in when you do this and that
In principle yes, but firstly, I suspect this is a hardware issue, and secondly, this is my only and my work laptop, and I’m working for a client at the moment, so you can imagine I’d be cautious to make such a change without more solid reason to think this a cause.
Personally, on my 11th gen board, there’s coil whine in the early stage of suspend. (Let me see if I can dig up that post…from a few years back)
Edit: Supposed to be here…but that is now a dead link:
Gotcha. Are you familiar with backing your system for a roll back?
It is very possible that your hardware has a problem, however, if the problem is because of a driver in the kernel it would be good to know so that it doesn’t continue to develop.
What I would really recommend is that you use the Ubuntu OEM driver that the 12th gen Framework 13 guide tells folks to use. I understand you are on Debian and have reservations to doing that, but I would just point out that there are reasons Framework has official distros that are supported.
Anyway, don’t give up with support, because if your issue is hardware, they are going to be integral to making progress with that.
The whine will not come from the speaker but from coils that maybe used to convert digital to analogue.
Ah! interesting. Could be.
Does it occur at dif speeds of cpu or temps etc. ?
No.
Please try and give some detail on when it happens as in when you do this and that
It happens pretty much all the time. I did find if I put pressure on the edge of the case, on the left side, that could make the whine go away, but that stopped working. So it seems to have a physical component.
Right now it’s there, but quietly. Earlier, when I came home from gym and opened up the screen (the laptop was not idle, just lid down and screen off), it was as loud as it gets.
Relating to speakers, they’re very nearly never in use, and are muted. I have bluetooth bone-conducting headphones, which are comfortable enough that they’re always on.
Gotcha. Are you familiar with backing your system for a roll back?
Well, there’s I imagine a dozen ways to backup a system. I have copy of the boot partition, and on-line back-up of all my data, but I only once tried to restore the boot drive (when the laptop was new), so I regard it as a substantial risk.
It is very possible that your hardware has a problem, however, if the problem is because of a driver in the kernel it would be good to know so that it doesn’t continue to develop.
Yes.
What I would really recommend is that you use the Ubuntu OEM driver that the 12th gen Framework 13 guide tells folks to use. I understand you are on Debian and have reservations to doing that, but I would just point out that there are reasons Framework has official distros that are supported.
Yes.
Anyway, don’t give up with support, because if your issue is hardware, they are going to be integral to making progress with that.
I’ve not contacted official support yet.
I’m thinking the first thing to try is to open her up and clean the fan.
The last time I opened was to change the keyboard, and those of you who have done that know what was involved =-)
On the ‘try another OS’
Have you considered trying Ubuntu from a USB, so as not to mess with your current setup
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Have you considered trying Ubuntu from a USB, so as not to mess with your current setup
That’s a good idea.
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