I wouldn’t expect that monitor to follow standards either
I hope Framework finds a resolution that helps you guys, but saying all devices are effected is false. None of the phones in my house have this problem when plugged into the Framework16. All of them connect, start charging off the laptop, and allow me to access their files. No cycling of roles, disconnecting, or any of that.
I demoed the issue when I was in Ubuntu Summit in The Hague where Framework has a booth over there. Their firmware developer later replied to me that this issue is still under investigation.
And there are two things I got from their developer:
They have control of the PD controller firmware, however due to the license of the SDK they are unable to release that part of the source code.
Their Expansion Cards don’t use PD protocol to define special features.
As much as the chassis and other components might have a 10-year+ life… The usefulness and price premium on ‘current’ tech does somewhat, indirectly, demand functional issues to be resolved sooner rather than later, no?
How many 1-year-and-unresolved issues are people willing to put up with?
This issue, albeit seemingly one in the same, combined with being unable to use external USB C one wire powered “portable monitors” is nearly a deal breaker at this point. Definitely will be re-evaluating what I am doing next hardware upgrade time which is unfortunate because I want to love everything about FW16.
Is there a list compiled somewhere of definitive “yes” screens? It seems like some decision alluded to that the 2.5k or 2560/1600 resolution screens were most successfully working?
I don’t know if you still have your Framework 16, but I would advise trying to get a replacement one because it seems defective. If you did this already, then, unfortunately, all you can hope for is a firmware update, or late refund??
Hi, just to clarify the iPhone 15 problem:
When you plug the iPhone 15 into a USB-C port of the FW13 AMD it has the described problem.
Does it have a problem with any non-AMD FW13 ?
When you plug the same iPhone 15 into a USB-A port of a FW13 AMD it works.
Is that a good summary? Note: I don’t have an iPhone.
After owning a FW 13" AMD for a few months, I’ve just attempted to charge my iPhone 15, and have run into the endless “Do you trust this computer?” loop. Reading the above, it appears to be a Framework hardware problem.
I have a FW13 with a Ryzen 7 7840U.
I’ve had an iPhone 16 Pro Max for the past 2 weeks, and android phones before that.
I’m also experiencing this issue only with the iPhone. I’ve tried all ports and USB-C to USB-C and USB-A to USB-C cables. With the USB-A cable it starts charging and then disconnects almost instantly without ever reconnecting, even if I unplug and re-plug the cable.
With USB-C to USB-C I get a constant loop of connecting and disconnecting.
Just to be sure, I tried the iPhone on other laptops with different CPUs - i5-7300U, i5-8350U, i7-11800H, Ryzen 7 8845HS.
I’m sad because I wanted to transfer some photos off the phone to my FW laptop, but I’m unable to.
I got the same idea today so I went and bought a cheap Hama dongle. Just got back home, plugged it in, plugged a USB-A to USB-C cable in the dongle and bam! It seems to be working just fine.
It’s a workaround I’m willing to use and won’t be complaining more.
Yep. If anyone else missed it, a USB-A expansion card works, or a USB-C to USB-A adapter + USB-A to USB-C cable. At least iirc it’s been reported a few times to be zero issue. Iphones only glitch when it USB-C straight through.