CF Express and full-size SD card readers would be at the top of my wish list.
I was about to propose this as a comment, but then realized it probably warrants its own thread:
Can we get a recessed or hidden type-a expansion card that hides our wireless type-a mouse dongles?
Search the forum for Dongle Hider!
Maybe this was already mentioned - sorry if that’s the case - but, what about a numeric keypad? Of course you can always plug a USB one, but I mean one that would exploit the socket for the extension card in order to make it look and feel like a natural extension of the laptop.
I’m thinking a module that would have an outrigger you could sit an FW16 numeric keypad on and plug into an expansion slot. I’m surprised no-one has thought along this line already.
Something similar was suggested before 11th Gen batch one was released, possibly using both expansion card slots on one side, with pass-through ports, so that 4 ports were still available.
Bonus points if it could be left or right sided
I think there were even some threads specifically targeted at such an accessory.
I know I would like one for data and spreadsheet usage.
This is a great idea! It links together the two different laptop architectures and I’d love to have an extension for my FW13 that lets me use FW16 pieces.
@Xavier_Jiang poe is DC, and in case of the fw 16, which supports pd 3.1, which is up to 48v, it could probably support that without any power circutry in the module, but i do not know the details, and also power throughput is nowhere near powerdelivery standards
How about a hardware password manager/security token like the https://onlykey.io Duo. I currently use one of those to unlock my disk encryption. Having that more or less permanently attached to the notebook would at least prevent forgetting the darn thing at home
… and nullifying your disk encryption. If the key is (permanently) attached to your drive, everyone getting hold of your drive also gets the decryption key for free.
That is true for most tokens of this style, however the OnlyKeys do need a PIN entered on the token before allowing access to the stored credentials. So if your attacker model does not include someone willing to physically attack the chip on the token that should work well enough for most use cases. I do not think that I am a target for nation state size actors
Additionally it could just be used as a second factor for better security when detached.
Here are the Expansion Cards / Tiles I’d like to see.
- Battery to charge another device - take it out of the framework laptop to charge your iPhone/Android, and use only 1 USB C cable to charge both the laptop and battery puck
- Quest 2/3/Pro Direct Wireless Adapter
- Matter/Homekit/Zigbee adapter to work with home automation
- Barcode Scanner - I’m sure Business Units, POS, or Kiosks could make use of this.
I’d also like to see Framework Standardize a possible ‘double width, double usb’ standard, and an ‘single width extended height’ standard before we get fractured implementations.
Is it possible to also fit a wireless m.2 card in the expansion slot?
You would not fit much battery in an expansion card, especially if it has to share space with even the smallest powerbank chips I know of but it would be doable even if not very useful.
For one usb and bluetooth scanners exist in all shapes and sizes so you probably don’t mean that but like an expansion card sized scanner that scans out the bottom or the side or something? The image in my head of someone running around a warehouse scanning stuff with the side of their laptop is kinda funny.
Maybe not m.2 but a fancy usb one might be a neat option. mediatek has a pretty nice 6e usb chipset(mt7921au) that might fit the bill.
You might not need much, but if you could get a 50% quick charge on one phone that might be enough to get you through a long conference day.
Have you seen the funny stuff they bolt onto laptops, tablets, and phones to make some sort of weird enterprise job an option?
- Barcode
- NFC
- Credit Card - CC Reader/ Swpie
- Square / Tap to Pay
I can all see these used as part of some sort of “enterprise” large purchase order for document tracking, insurance adjusters, billing and quoting, kiosk/(point of service) POS, membership tracking, etc…
To get into my local gym, I have to scan a member ID card to the barcode scanner and the laptop is elevated on some custom-built stand.
Since the Framework Expansion Card Internal volume is approximately 29.7mm x 26.7mm x 5mm, it seems like it is just shy of a fit with an M.2 2230(maybe with creativity it would fit), but the M.2 1625 package size would fit for sure.
Other m.2 packages that might fit according to this graphic are:
- 1113-X
- 1216-X
- 1620-X
- 2024-X
- 2226-X
- 2228-X
- 2828-X
I am not sure if the Intel M.2 1625 is a standard or unique from Intel.
Package Specifications
Board Form Factor
M.2 2230, M.2 1625
Package Size
22mm x 30mm x 2.4mm, 16mm x 25mm x 2.0mm
System Interface Type
M.2: CNVio2
That’s all fine and good except they are pcie so you’d also need thunderbolt/usb4 to pcie circuitry in there which is neither compact or cheap (seriously that stuff is expansive as hell and also pretty hard to implement) so the direct usb option ls a lot easier. And wasting a thunderbolt port for wifi is just wastefull as all hell.
Imo, this cnvio bs should go die in a fire and also likely won’t work through thunderbolt. It’s not faster than regular pcie, it’s not more power efficient than regular pcie, the modules are just slightly cheaper to manufacture but in exchange only work with certain cpus. Goof for oems that can save a few cents per device, not so good for the consumer who has a wifi card that only works on certain devices.
mt7921au usb with external antennas could fit pretty comfortably inside an expansion card.
You aren’t fitting anywhere near 50% of a normal phone worth of battery in there, let alone with quick charge electronics.
Also, I bet a lot of people would love to be able to use M.2 2230 standard devices in the expansion slot, even if it sticks out just a bit from the laptop, and being able to use an M.2 2280 in a double wide slot, if that becomes possible in the future, would be really cool too!
Hopefully, before too long, Framework gets a better sense of what people want to use the expansion slots for and improve the standard and size possibilities to make most of them possible. If we are lucky, the slot expansion will then become a more broadly adopted standard.
I think missing 2230 and 2280 out of the gate was a big miss.