What do you mean by all over the place? Like, 50W to 100W and doesn’t stay put?
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I did only test with satisfactory. Is rock steady 100w on the GPU with the 180w Framework Charger but 35-80w with the 240w Charger. (Its not Tmperature throttling, the highest i ever sae on the GPU is 77C)
Power seemed to bounce between 64 and 100W in God of War. Was also happening in WoW as well. I charged up the laptop to 100 and it didn’t happen. It seems to happen when the battery has a slight discharge and then recharges. Watching MangoHud in Bazzite and watching the time remaining, when it disappeared and the little charging icon appeared that’s when it happens.
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I’ve not noticed anything similar to fluctuations with my 240W charger. Yesterday I loaded up total war warhammer 3 with proton experimental and during every benchmark I’m capped at 100W. I’ll certainly keep my eye out though.
Going to discharge the battery and look at the effect of having the battery reduced when I try it.
I noticed in Total war Warhammer 3 on the Linux version, if the laptop’s charging indicator disappeared the FPS capped to 30…
Okay, I’ve collected some results from different tests and I think there’s definitely something up.
So starting from a discharged battery, and connecting the charger to it my GPU hovers around 35-40W while playing total war warhammer.
After it charged up to full, I still wasn’t seeing the GPU go to full power.
After rebooting the game while at full charge:
It only goes up to 100 briefly, I assume when the battery is full and beginning the discharge phase, because it drops back down to how the 2nd image is.
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Great Test, thank you. I have limited my Battery to 80% since Day one. I will test with a Full Charge sometime. Its essential to have it working when i an on the Road again. At home im only connected to my 90w PD Screen and my eGPU so im not using the dGPU. 
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I too keep mine limited at 80%
I went ahead and created a GitHub issue for this:
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Just curious - has anyone tested using the 3.04 or 3.03 bios?
I think we can still roll back?
My laptop is almost always at 100% so that may explain why I am not seeing the issue. But I can try and roll back and see what the GPU watts looks like at a lower percent.
Mine just shipped, ~7 days after I ordered it.
By the way, the comment above left me a bit confused—is the problem serious, or is this charger fine to use?
Sometimes, I think people can get too caught up in “racing” benchmarks. I’ve been using the Delta 240w charger for a few weeks and it’s fine for me. The battery no longer drains when I’m running games, which is what I’m expecting and a satisfactory result to me.
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Based on what I found when documenting the issue above, it would seem that the reason the battery doesn’t drain could be because the laptop isn’t running at full power. The DGPU on my system with the 240W bounces between 73W and 80W, when the framework charger makes the DGPU run at 100W. Performance suffers and the laptop doesn’t appear to be making the best use of the 240W charger while in performance mode.
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Try running the laptop in balanced while connected to the 240W charger. I tried it because I had a thought about the original charger not draining while in balanced, and it looks like it gives the DGPU a more normal power usage…
I have updated the GitHub issue with the new findings.
Please keep this thread on-topic. Any off-topic replies will be deleted or split off into another thread.
At least for me on BIOS 3.05, what is happening is if the battery is less than the max charge, then the dGPU will vary in its wattage. When fully charged it is fine, but once it drops a tiny bit, you’ll see frame spikes as the wattage starts to fluctuate for half a second.
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Mine shipped yesterday from Digikey (Ordered 28/11/2024, shipped 16/12/2024, about 2.5 weeks while the site indicated 32 weeks from factory).
Now Digikey shows 24 in stock for immediate shipping; get them while they’re hot!
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Thanks, reordered from digikey again as Mouser weren’t even trying to look into why they couldn’t supply me the PSU.
Since it doesn’t look like anyone else has posted this example yet, here’s a screenshot of my Framework 16 on Windows drawing power from battery while playing Helldivers 2 on the 180W charger (started playing at 8pm). Didn’t have more sophisticated logging software at the time unfortunately.
I knew a higher wattage charger would be nice, but I was surprised to see the RX 7700S drawing so much power (I guess all those cinematic explosions are pretty demanding). Thanks all for the info on 240W chargers, I’ll be picking one up as well.
Oh no… We had a similar problem with other chargers… looks like this Delta 240
w has the same “stuttering watts” problem…
I recieved my unit today. Can confirm:
-stock 180w Framework charger: 100w dGPU pulling during 3DMark
-Delta 240w: power oscillates between 50 to 100w, as described in another thread.
My bios version is 3.03, now I’ll upgrade and see if it gets better on the newer version.
EDIT: I upgraded to bios 3.05. The charger now works flawlessly. While the stock one, on max performance, while running Furmark + CPU burner (10 threads) pulls ~20W from the battery, the Delta 240W loses 3-5W from the battery while keeping everything at max TDP: 100W GPU and 30-35W CPU. Now I dont have time to test further, I’ll keep you posted.
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