AMD Batch 4 Guild

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Personally, I would expect it to work fine. During prolonged reads or writes it may heat up to the point that the drive controller throttles and the drive slows down, but I suspect it would still work well overall. You might get better sustained speeds if you had some kind of cooling so the controller didn’t thermal throttle. But I haven’t seen any testing to see if a cheaper, slower drive would throttle less and end up performing at a similar speed to a faster drive in a laptop. Could be an interesting test.

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I was researching this same drive before purchasing yesterday. There’s an extremely in depth review here: TechPowerUp

Regarding heat:

The Samsung 990 Pro handles the heat very well though, even without a heatsink. In our worst-case thermal stress test we were able to get the drive to throttle, but only briefly, and only when hammering it with hundreds of GBs of writes at multiple GB/s. The thermal throttling algorithm is also well-behaved, you still get 1.3 GB/s when throttled. Samsung does offer a variant with heatsink for $15 more, I see no reason to spend that money. For the typical day-to-day usage tasks the thermal performance is easily good enough, no need to worry.

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I wonder what the test setup looked like. In a desktop PC case with case fans providing airflow? Open test bench? Inside a cramped laptop? Still, even if those results were in a case with lots of airflow and it throttled a bit more in a laptop, I still think it would be fine.

Edit: Also, welcome to the community!

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Thanks!

That’s a great point. I had it stuck in my head that it was tested in a laptop, but it was a desktop case. Full test setup: (TechPowerUp)

I still think it will probably work fine in normal workloads, but I’ll test it once mine is all set up. Worst case, a little $10 stick-on heatsink should help if it will fit. I got pretty significant temp improvements using the cheapest one I could find for chia mining a couple years ago.

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Batch 4 here. I hope it arrives before my current laptop dies. I’ve been holding it together for the past six months.

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Hey all waiting for Batch 4! I’m batch 4 too, just a bare bones DIY Ryzen 5.

Batch 1 started preparation for shipping 11 days ago, batch 2 started preparation today. Are we getting our emails early November?

I’m very excited!

Let baseless speculation commence!

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Hello, also Batch 4 here. You are assuming that the Batches are sized evently… Do we expect this to be the case?

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Batch 4 here! It’s good to hear Batch 1 and 2 are progressing.

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In my more baseless speculations I think we can expect emails at the end of October

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I’m excited, but I’m telling myself I’m glad I don’t have it yet, because some of the firmware/BIOS and Linux issues will likely be ironed out by the time I get mine, lol.

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Same here, although it looks like I won’t have to sell the ram and SSD I bought on prime day. Some people that bought the same kit seem to be having some success getting their machines up and running.

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Anyone else go Crucial 5600 46CL 32GB? It can run CL44 on stock voltage if timing options are ever added to the Framework bios!

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Hello, AMD Batch 4 Guild! To help you pass the time :upside_down_face:

What choices did you select for your order?

Base
  • DIY
  • Pre-built
  • Mainboard and parts separately

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CPU
  • AMD Ryzen™ 5 7640U
  • AMD Ryzen™ 7 7840U

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Memory
  • DDR5-5600 - 8GB (1 x 8GB)
  • DDR5-5600 - 16GB (1 x 16GB)
  • DDR5-5600 - 16GB (2 x 8GB)
  • DDR5-5600 - 32GB (1 x 32GB)
  • DDR5-5600 - 64GB (2 x 32GB)
  • DDR5-5600 - 32GB (2 x 16GB)
  • None (bring your own)

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Storage
  • WD_BLACK™ SN770 NVMe™- M.2 2280
  • WD_BLACK™ SN770 NVMe™- M.2 2280 - 500GB
  • WD_BLACK™ SN770 NVMe™- M.2 2280 - 1TB
  • WD_BLACK™ SN850X NVMe™- M.2 2280 - 1TB
  • WD_BLACK™ SN770 NVMe™- M.2 2280 - 2TB
  • WD_BLACK™ SN850X NVMe™- M.2 2280 - 2TB
  • WD_BLACK™ SN850X NVMe™- M.2 2280 - 4TB
  • None (bring your own)

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Operating System
  • Windows 11 Home (Download)
  • Windows 11 Pro (Download)
  • None (bring your own)

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Bezel
  • Black
  • Gray
  • Orange
  • Green
  • Lavender
  • Red
  • Clear

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Keyboard
  • US English
  • British English
  • English International
  • Belgian
  • French
  • French Canadian
  • German
  • Italian
  • Japanese
  • Korean
  • Spanish (Latin American)
  • Spanish (Spain)
  • Traditional Chinese (Cangjie & Zhuyin)
  • Blank ANSI
  • Blank ISO
  • Clear ANSI
  • Clear ISO

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Power Adapter
  • Power Adapter - 60W - US/Canada
  • Power Adapter - 60W - EU
  • Power Adapter - 60W - UK
  • Power Adapter - 60W - AU
  • None (bring your own)

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Expansion Cards
  • USB-C
  • USB-A
  • HDMI (3rd Gen)
  • Ethernet
  • DisplayPort (2nd Gen)
  • MicroSD
  • Audio
  • Storage - 250 GB
  • Storage - 1 TB
  • None

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Looks like you were spot on! People just started to receive “We’re preparing Batch 3…” emails.

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Hi Fellow Frameworkers :partying_face:

I’m part of batch 4 as I waited to preorder with the idea the first few batches would help dial things in. Mine’s a Ryzen 5 and will run Linux (likely Debian/Ubuntu, though I’m also intrigued by QubesOS).

I picked up a Crucial P3 Plus drive b/c their price to performance is hard to beat. If I took a no limit approach, a 2tb Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus was my top pick. Seems to compare favorably to the Sammie 990 Pro @Uwe_Fechner linked to.

I’ve got an older Anker 60W usb-c brick but have been eyeing this as a multi-port replacement: Anker Prime 67W 3 port charger.

I’ve got a Sonnet 550 egpu box with a RX580 I’ll be using for video rendering and light gaming.

My preorder included 2x8GB sodimms. However it now looks like 2x16GB cost the same or less on the open market. I’d like to support the home team but may alter my order.

What would you do?

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I also pre-ordered 2x8GB (Batch 4 team represent). I’d think of removing them, but don’t want to make any order changes and potentially lose my place in line. Were I doing it over again, I’d probably just order 2x16 from an online retailer.

Since Batch 3 emails just started going out 4-5 days ago, and suggested up to 4 weeks to ship all Batch 3 orders, I’d expect late November for the Batch 4 orders to start shipping.

I may go for that Crucial P3 Plus drive. Considering this is not going to be a gaming machine for me, seems perfectly great for desktop app needs.

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Idk how to reply to a specific topic but AMD Batch 4 Guild - #27 by linuxlion
Replying to that comment you can send the customer service team a email to change your ram to no ram and buy your own

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Thanks for the suggestion @Actyst . I just messaged support myself for the same reason as a result. I requested they only remove the RAM if it doesn’t affect my place in line. We’ll see how it goes!

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Framework support very quickly responded and removed the RAM from my preorder, and assured me it won’t affect my place in the queue for Batch 4. Awesome customer service. I’ll definitely be purchasing 32GB (2x16GB) based on the best deal once I get a shipping notification for the laptop.

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Very excited to see that 3.03 is clearing up some of the Linux concerns out there. Can’t wait!

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