AMD CPUs please

Alder Lake (Intel 12th gen) supports DDR4 as well as seen with DDR4-equipped LGA1700 motherboards.

But yes, Zen3+ (Ryzen 6000) seems to not support DDR4 at all.

Yes I know it does support DDR4.
ASUS even make adapters to use DDR4 on their DDR5 motherboards.

The point being, that it was designed around DDR5 and the is a performance increase over DDR4 SODIMM’s.

Marginal for CPU performance, much greater most likely for iGPU

I expect with AMD requiring DDR5, 12th gen upgrades will also be DDR5 so as to retain economies of scale in part costs

Fair enough then. I stand corrected

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Another vote for AMD.

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It may or may not be relevant than the Ryzen 5000C series has been announced for Chromebooks, notable in that Chomebooks use CoreBoot.:

Basically they seem to be rebrands of the existing 5000U series processors (albeit with a few clockspeed tweaks) with the exception of the 5125C which looks to be what the Zen-based Athlons used to be (2core/4thread with no turbo and only 3 iGPU compute units).

That being said, the lack of USB4/Thunderbolt is probably still the elephant in the room and, as I previously stated, we may have to wait for Ryzen 7000 mobile chips which is already known to be undergoing CoreBoot development (Ryzen 6000 seems to have been skipped; I can’t help but wonder if Google also doesn’t want to touch Microsoft Pluton for basically being a competing solution - ā€œGoogle TPMā€ is even mentioned in the slidedeck which obviously just utilizes the processor’s TPM functionality. It’ll be very interesting to see if mobile Ryzen 7000 has Pluton or not and if the 7000C variants differ in that regard).

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To be honest, Intel CPU is the only thing holding me back from purchasing this wonderful laptop.

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I know the 12th gen parts have just came out, but I’m putting a bump on this as 12th gen has the same (bad) iGPU which I have found does slow me down a lot when using my FW. AMD’s iGPUs are considerably better, so would be an instant buy from me.

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Now I have no idea what your software configuration is but I do want to at least mention that Linux is basically a requirement in order to get anywhere near the full potential out of Intel’s graphics hardware due to extremely sub-par Windows graphics drivers vs their extremely well-regarded Linux graphics drivers.

…and I say this as someone typing from a Ryzen 4800U!

(fun fact, Intel’s Windows drivers have consistently been heavily rumored to be the reason why Intel’s discrete GPUs keep being delayed and that the hardware has actually been ready for months now)

Also it goes without saying that dual-channel RAM of not-slow speeds is always going to be needed to get the most out of any integrated graphics, AMD or Intel (though, if the iGPU is really weak then, theoretically, you’ll hit bottlenecks in the GPU cores before the memory bandwidth becomes an issue - I’m thinking more like Intel 945GMA-class stuff from the mid 2000s)

I’ve got a fistful of dollars here just waiting for the ryzen options.

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I will instantly buy, when an AMD option gets released. I need the better iGPU performance.

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Posting here again. Happy user of a 4700U and 4900H, as well as a 5900HX that I’ve tested at work. Would love to see a 6800U board or newer become available, but I guess we will have to wait and see after the shortages.

I am also waiting for AMD models. While I understand the supply constraints make it difficult for Framework to have a clear road map, it would be appreciable if they were at least forthcoming and transparent about their plans and rough timeline about it.

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I would love AMD as well. Next generation mobile ryzen really needs thunderbolt. That would make my setup complete.

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The 6800U graphics performance is genuinely impressive for integrated graphics. I’m eagerly awaiting the Zen4/RDNA3 APUs - I would definitely upgrade for that.

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YES! This :slight_smile: I want to vote with my wallet on a few topics. I’m super pumped about Frame.Work and right to repair.

Lately, I’ve not been too jazzed with Intel’s adding code for Software-Defined Silicon to the Linux kernel (and probably Windows too). It feels like rent seeking behavior from a company who really doesn’t need to get into subscriptions or other tiering like that. Having the opportunity to buy a right-to-repair-focused AMD-based laptop would be a great alternative!

(yes, I know that SDS is probably going to be aimed at enterprise markets at the start, but it feels like BMW building cars with seat heaters but making users pay a monthly subscription to use them, ya know?)

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A 6800U Framework is an instant buy for me

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Fair enough considering the ARM Macs have Thunderbolt. I’m excited to see how and where Framework heads in the future!

They have said before that it’s cost, they haven’t gone through the certification process.
IMO that makes sense, better off spending that money shipping more products.

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If they release and AMD mainboard, then it would be absolutely stupid to not support ECC! The AMD mobile CPUs support it defaultly and they’d get free promoted from Linus Torvalds! He would 100% shout out frame.work because he’s been vocal about missing ECC, especially in laptops. It wouldn’t have to come with the laptop, but it would still be relatively tribal for the motherboard to support it.

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